Template talk:Human timeline


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Template problem?

@Hike395: Template Problem?: Re "Homo habilis" on the template graph - seems "bar9-left" works OK; but "bar9-nudge-right" and "bar9-nudge-down" are BROKEN, and no longer work at all for some reason? - is there a fix for this? - Thanks in advance for your reply - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 16:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

It's not broken, it's disabled. By default, the text centers in the box. If you want to override that, you set |disable-box-align=true, and then bar*-nudge-* will work. I need to document this. — hike395 (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
@Hike395: - Thank you for your comments - and clarification - yes - all seems *entirely* ok at the moment - Thanks again - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 22:31, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Broken linking

Links to earliest clothes, earliest cooking, earliest fire use, expansion beyond Africa, earliest bipedal and chimpanzee split don't work. Also, this template should not use <small> per MOS:ACCESS#Font size. (t · c) buidhe 20:31, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe and Hike395: (and others) - Thank you for your comments - and noting the broken links in {{Human timeline}} - interesting - not sure what needs fixing at the moment - everything seemed *entirely* ok not too long ago as I recall - may have to do some homework with this - there doesn't seem to be any broken links whatsoever currently in two similar templates: {{Nature timeline}} or {{Life timeline}} - in any case - Thanks again for your comments - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 Done - @Buidhe and Hike395: (and others) - "adds/adjs - all links now seem to be working again - rm all instances of < small>< /small> & replaced with { {font|size=80%|- -}} - or related" - hope this is *entirely* ok - or, at least, better than earlier - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 15:30, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Drbogdan, Thanks for your efforts, but the links still aren't working for me. Also, ideally this template should not use <small> or equivalent because as stated in MOS:ACCESS, "Avoid using smaller font sizes within page elements that already use a smaller font size, such as most text within infoboxes, navboxes, and references sections." The extra small text can be quite difficult to read especially for those with limited vision capability. (t · c) buidhe 15:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe and Hike395: (and others) - Thanks for your comments - yes - agreed re font sizing - but this may take some substantial template overhauling I would think - much like the updating of the {{Life timeline}} recently - please see the comparison of original and updated versions of the {{Life timeline}} at => "Template talk:Life timeline#Original vs Test templates - comments welcome" - you (or others) are welcome to try of course - perhaps using the related sandbox (at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Human_timeline/sandbox ) - none of the links of the current {{Human timeline}} are broken for me at the moment - all links are now working *entirely* ok for me (using => WinTel10/Chrome&FirefoxBrowsers/DellXPS8900) - not sure why the {{Human timeline}} links may not be working for you - in any case - hope this helps in some way - Stay Safe and Healthy !! Drbogdan (talk) 16:15, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Need Template:Human timeline Help

@Hike395: (and others) - Need Template Help if Possible - Tried to upgrade the "Template:Human timeline" to a somewhat larger (for better font sizes) template at => "Template:Human timeline/sandbox5" - some of the Note links (on the right side margin) seem OK (4 of 10), but several Note links (6 of 10) are NOT OK (no linking?) for some reason (except for these 6 Note links, all other of the 28 links in the template are OK) - I'm stumped with the 6 (NOT OK) Note links at the moment - any help with these particular links would be greatly appreciated - Thanks - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 14:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe and Hike395: (and others) - The problem seems to be a "display bug" in the {{Graphical timeline}} since the problem also occurs in the {{Life timeline}} and {{Nature timeline}} templates as well - according to editors at "Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Need Template:Human timeline Help" - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 21:23, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done @Buidhe and Hike395: (and others) - Possible Solution - all links now seem to work OK (using => WinTel10/Chrome&FirefoxBrowsers/DellXPS8900) in "Template:Human timeline/sandbox5" - after removing/commenting-out => "annotations-width=8.8" in the template coding - hope this helps in some way - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 00:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

@Drbogdan: The timeline still doesn't work for me under Firefox/Ubuntu. |annotations-width= shouldn't affect this. I believe this is because of the use of the vertical notes to fill in the age labels (like Pleistocene). When you have long vertical notes, it is likely to confuse the hit finding of the browsers.
The right way to do this is with |barXX-text= and the use of {{Vertical text}}. You can see an example of this at {{Devonian graphical timeline}}.
Note also that note text size is set by the {{Graphical timeline}} template to be the minimum acceptable size according to MOS:SMALLFONT. If you're setting it to anything below 90%, it's in violation of the MoS. I can see that you aren't doing this, so that's great!
I'll attempt a fix in {{Human timeline/sandbox}}. — hike395 (talk) 07:50, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Hike395: Thanks for all your comments, detailed corrections and efforts - to be clear on my end at the moment, *all* the links in the {{Human timeline/sandbox5}} version seem to work with both browsers (ie, Chrome and Firefox - as well as - Brave,Edge,Opera) using Wintel10/DellXPS8900 - maybe Ubuntu (and not the browsers) is a possible cause of some of the recent concerns? - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 12:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
@Drbogdan: I also made a change to the underlying Lua (suggested by MarMi wiki) that may have fixed the problem. I'm working in my own sandbox on a simpler version of the timeline, where the human clade is outlined in the bars, and all other species are placed into the notes. — hike395 (talk) 15:54, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Original vs New Templates - comments welcome

A new template version has been installed - esp to improve accessibility by increasing the font-size of text - hope this new template is *entirely* ok - please comment if otherwise of course - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 01:13, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

ORIGINAL (2016-2021)NEW (2021) (current)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2021

I want to replace this link "Control of fire by early humans" instead of "Cooking" in Hominin timeline template. Neghasht (talk) 15:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC) note8=Earliest cooking --> note8=Earliest cooking Neghasht (talk) 15:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Not done - Thank you for your suggestions - however - the original text seems better - and seems well supported - and currently includes both of your suggestions already as follows:
| note7-at=-1.500
| note7=Earliest fire use (ie, [ [Control of fire by early humans|Earliest fire use]])
| note8-at=-0.790
| note8=Earliest cooking (ie, [ [Cooking#History|Earliest cooking]])
hope this helps in some way - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2021 (UTC)