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Thank you

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Thanks for your recent contributions! Mike Restivo (talk) 19:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

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awarded in recognition of tireless and often thankless street sign scholarship Cramyourspam (talk) 03:35, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for your eloquent input on the Canada talk page; on the mark as always. Looks like deletionists aren't just a problem on the Commons, unfortunately. Thanks again! Illegitimate Barrister, 19:50, 11 December 2015 (UTC)




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RNZAF infobox


Hi, The documentation for Template:Infobox military unit specifies that the allegiance field is to be "used to indicate the allegiance of units which are not part of the regular armed forces of a sovereign state; can usually be omitted otherwise". As such, it's not suitable to use it in this context. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 22:02, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nick-D: well, the articles for many of Her Majesty's other armed forces around the world appear to not follow that policy. Several republican articles also appear not to, such as the USAF bearing allegiance to the American Constitution, the Bangladeshi Air Force bearing allegiance to the People's Republic, and several others. I would suggest the interpretation of what the allegiance section is for is ambiguous. Fry1989 eh? 23:03, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

File:Charter of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) logo.svg


Hello, you have tagged the image I have uploaded as a candidate to be moved to Commons. However, I have uploaded it as a fair-use non-free image. It can't be accepted onto Commons under that license.

I followed the example of zh.wikipedia in determining the copyright status. However, it might pass Template:PD-PRC-exempt (cf. File:National Emblem of the People's Republic of China.svg) - I don't have the expertise to determine this. The issue of license should be resolved before moving to Commons is possible. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 02:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, File:中国人民政治协商会议.png already exists under the license I've described. I have updated the license of File:Charter of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC) logo.svg accordingly to give it an all-clear for Commons. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 02:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Belarus


Colleague, don't change National Emblem of Belarus in any articles, please. This is very impertinently to change it in Belorussian Wikipedia firstly and secondly I'm a citizen of this country and I can reassure you this emblem is legal now from 2012. --Einimi (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Einimi, if you do not provide a proper source for your change in image, I will have to request your changes be reverted by an administrator. Fry1989 eh? 19:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
I've provided. There is an official site page in the article about the emblem. You can watch it. And I have a counter request: why did you changed it in ALL Wikipedias? If you don't agree here so change it here, but not in others. --Einimi (talk) 19:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

RMS Queen Mary 2


Hello, I reverted you Blue Ensign for RMS Queen Mary 2 to the undefaced Red Ensign. She is a Royal Mail Ship but the Blue Ensign is flown only when a member of the Royal Navy Reserve is her master. Presently, the only Cunard captain who has this Blue Ensign privilege is Christopher Wells and therefore it flies only when he is in command of the vessel. When Captain Kevin Oprey or Commodore Christopher Rynd are in command the Red Ensign is flown. Blue Riband► 18:14, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Non-free image on Commons?


File:Namibian Navy Flag.jpg - Erm? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:43, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

What is your reason to believe it is non-free? I disagree. Fry1989 eh? 19:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

DIREKTOR/Director's problem


Director seems to think he can continually revert edits angrily with no regard for consensus and the widespread use of some of his images (see: his Nazi-related insignia); how should we best handle this? I've been going around protecting most of the things he tries to damage from edits for the past few months, such as Template:Nazism and it's sidebar. DasReichenz (talk) 22:46, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Wow. Well, firstly, this is a (very obvious) sock of Dannis243, who's been pushing for Nazi Party symbols in the sidebar for ages. Secondly, I mean - just look at the talkpage. Not only is Dannnis234/DasReichenz ignoring it, and just pushing his change through edit-warring, and that over and over again across months - but he's going against apparent consensus. -- Director (talk) 08:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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I believe Barneyuj4 is another sock of User:Barneyuj5 can you add him to the investigation page? – Thanks FOX 52 (talk) 23:03, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Pakistan


As I think, State emblem of Pakistan is not in original color. You must check the color of coat of arms on the official interior ministry, defense ministry websites of Pakistan. Official colour is not #014102. Rather it is #00611c. Color is not dark green, it is light green or parrot-like. Please review it again and make correction in file. Thanks! --Asadwarraich (talk) 14:50, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

The sources for the national flag that I have seen are significantly darker and I have changed the coat of arms to match. Fry1989 eh? 18:52, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm a civil engineering student. Some construction tenders that I saw a few days ago were also comprising of parrot color like coat of arms. Also, an advertisement on the newspaper by Ministry of Interior shows it to be parrot like color, not solid green. Why don't you give me some sources regarding darkness of coat of arms?--Asadwarraich (talk) 12:31, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Official passport of Pakistan also shows the coat of arms to be parrot like color and it is different from your version of coat of arms at Wikipedia. Here are references:
  1. Ref. 1
  2. Ref. 2 This reference is from latest passport.--Asadwarraich (talk) 08:46, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
You have not replied me since 20 days. :) --Asadwarraich (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

SORRY again!


Hello,

Sorry about this. I was the one who edited the Flag of Mongolia page. I saw later that you undid this. I did not realise I had done anything wrong, but I am sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes.

Could you please tell me what I did wrong, or why you undid the edit? If it is something I did, then I would like to not do it again. You can help me with this by telling me what I did wrong.

Thank you, for your patience.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw0391 (talkcontribs) 01:42, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Ughhhh... I'm an idiot, sorry. I forgot a subject/headline. So sorry.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw0391 (talkcontribs) 01:43, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Dw0391:, the two files appear to be the same. If there is a new change you have made, you should upload it onto File:Flag of Mongolia.svg. Fry1989 eh? 16:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
@Fry1989: They are certainly similar, but I noticed that the outline around the yin-yang symbol was made by a 'line', and not a 'shape', if you will. With the image as it was, if you resized it in a vector program, the line would still want to be at the same width, and would just get thicker as the image decreased in size (the inverse is also true). So, I made the outline a shape, and if it is resized it will remain at the same size (proportionate to the rest of the image), because it is not a line, but a shape.
Also, I did not realise that you could upload an image over someone else's. I will learn more about this, and try to do it later. Otherwise, I hope this adequately explains my actions. I'm sorry to get you this far involved. I don't mean to bother other people.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw0391 (talkcontribs) 23:44, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
@Dw0391:, no need to apologise :) If anything I should apologise for my late resposne leaving you hanging. Most files on Commons can be uploaded over and improved, unless they are protected. I don't see File:Flag of Mongolia.svg protected so you should have no problem. Fry1989 eh? 19:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
@Fry1989:Thanks. I will try this.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw0391 (talkcontribs) 23:23, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Serious question regarding Road signs in South Africa


I see that the page is almost a gallery of photos. I was wondering if that should be cut down or trimmed. Winterysteppe (talk) 04:59, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

@Winterysteppe:, sadly I don't think Wikipedia has a very good way of displaying road signs in articles this way. But there are a lot of road signs articles for different countries and they all face this problem. I agree that displaying 500 signs on an article isn't ideal. Right now I'm working on uploading the signs on Commons, an IP user has been adding them to the article. If you want to trim things down a bit, I would not object. Fry1989 eh? 19:15, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
@Fry1989: I saw that. I made a revert on that page because i saw that and thought it was ridiculous. It definitely felt like I went to Wikimedia Commons instead. I think it is good that you upload them to Commons. I support that. In regards to the article, Im thinking of trimming to the signs that are the most commonly seen signs, like stop signs, merge, one way, etc. I mean, not just that page, but all the pages. Is that fine? Winterysteppe (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
@Winterysteppe: sorry for a slow response. No I would not mind at all, we have to be practical. Fry1989 eh? 20:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Gibraltar COAs


Hi Fry1989. If Gibraltar COAs are PD then please convert the file from non-free to the appropriate free license. The file is unlikely to be moved to Commons and is going to keep being treated as non-free on Wikipedia as long as it's tagged with a non-free copyright tag. If you're not sure which copyright license to use, then you can ask at WP:FFD or WP:MCQ for assistance. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:18, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi again Fry1989. I've asked for opinions regarding the licensing of this and similar files at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 July 4#Gibraltar coats of arms. Any information you can provide which might help clarify this would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Fry1989, it would be helpful if you would link to any indication that Gibraltar coats of arms are public domain; lacking that, we have to treat them as fair use and they can't be moved to Commons. All the best, Miniapolis 00:37, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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For your fixing the media on Road signs in the United States TheSpaceFace Let's Chat 21:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
How kind. Thank you! Fry1989 eh? 23:37, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Flag of the Prime Minister of Portugal (1952-1972)


Hi there, Fry! I'm Gameiro from the Portuguese Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could help me with an image of a flag that is currently nonexistent in the community. It's the flag of the Portuguese Prime Minister, used from 1952 when it replaced this flag (File:Flag of Portuguese Minister.svg) and 1972, when it was replaced by this one (File:Flag of Portuguese Prime-Minister.svg). The flag was almost identical to the one used by the Minister of Defense (File:Flag of Defense Minister.png), the exception being that instead of the dragons, it used the 5 blue besants of the Portuguese shield, in a white background, just like in the image of page 1 of this offical decree: https://dre.pt/application/file/671697. Do you think you could help me by doing it? Using the flag of the Minister of Defense as a start, it shouldn't be that hard, I think. Thanks! Gameiro (talk) 12:42, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I will try working on it. Thank you. Fry1989 eh? 15:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
@Gameiro:, here we go. I apologise for the delay. File:Flag of the Prime Minister of Portugal (1952-1972).svg. Fry1989 eh? 18:45, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi, there! Thank you! They turned out great. And no worries about the time, these things take time. Best! Gameiro (talk) 19:49, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

July 2017


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I am sorry that I have to file this despite other hope. Neverthelees you seem to be unreasonable. Well, let's if we come to a solution this way. ZH8000 (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

The only person being unreasonable is yourself. It is very obvious you are putting signs in the wrong tables. File:CH-Hinweissignal-Vorwegweiser bei Kreisverkehrsplatz.svg IS NOT a warning sign, it is an indication sign. It's that simple! Fry1989 eh? 19:33, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Title


Fry can you rename this file, to included "Kingdom of Samoa 1873 – 1900" in the file name - many thanks in advance FOX 52 (talk) 07:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Done. Fry1989 eh? 17:31, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thai road signs


The directional signs with red rim, that you keep removing are abundantly used. Also they are shown on government websites as current signs. Please stop removing them from the list. They are not "former"signs. Woodstone (talk) 17:37, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I have given this reference earlier on. Woodstone (talk) 17:42, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I have several Thai documents showing that they have been replaced by Type A. Just because many of the Type B signs are still around doesn't mean they are still official. Road signs are usually left where they are until they deteriorate and need replacing. Fry1989 eh? 17:57, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I have seen people being fined while caught violating one of the old model signs. So they must have power of law. Anyway, as mentioned above, WP should reflect reality, not abstraction. The signs are on the streets, so they should be in the list. I would not object to a footnote designating them as obsolescent. Woodstone (talk) 05:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

I have uploaded and added the signs back to the article. Is this better? Fry1989 eh? 19:36, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for improving the images and adding them back (plus a few extra, but two still missing). However now they are hidden in a distant corner of the article. They are common enough on the streets to merit a first rank placement. Unless you can show a reference that explicitly says they are obsolescent, they should be moved to their proper place next to the alternative international blue signs. Woodstone (talk) 07:12, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

The most recent documents show these signs only in the blue version. Older documents show the red version. I can send these documents to you for comparison if you would like. Fry1989 eh? 18:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

It does not matter much if the red rim signs are in recent documents, which are meant for future signage. The fact is that these signs are present and enforced. I remember vividly my confusion at these signs when I first arrived to live in Thailand. We should support readers to understand reality of signage actually on the streets. As said before, a footnote might clarify their status. Woodstone (talk) 07:15, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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New name for image that I happened to have in my userbox


I'm curious about this, and quite dumb about mark-up and coding. Very dumb.
I thought I saw my that userbox on my user page distorted, so checked it and found you'd made a change, so I reverted it.
It's possible the distortion was some temporary internet glitch. I didn't think so at the time. What do you think?
Did you visit my sandbox? Or does a "universal change" automatically change everything wherever it is? YoPienso (talk) 02:27, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh fine, do what ever you want. But if someone replaced a file on one of my pages which had been renamed, and especially considering since renames can cause problems with images properly appearing, I'd thank them instead of being obstinate. Fry1989 eh? 17:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Um, I was politely asking you to inform my ignorance. YoPienso (talk) 02:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

LGBT Flag map of X.


I see those flag maps on many of the articles on "Same Sex Marriage in X". Do you have any information that they are actually used in each of those countries, or is it a creation of yours?Naraht (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

There were a few maps already like that on Commons. I just made the rest of them. They are purely a creation for Commons, they are not used in those countries in any official manner. Fry1989 eh? 17:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
A large number of them are on articles on Wikipedia itself, do you support that?Naraht (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Not especially. Fry1989 eh? 16:08, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Interested in


There's a discussion here you might be interested in. Basically it's a debate on which audio file is better. A modern professional one or one from 111 years ago. – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 01:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

March 2018


Your recent editing history at Comparison of European road signs‎ shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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No, we did not discuss this issue. Please tell me, how should I – or anybod else – take you seriously if you are not even able to be sure about a such simple fact. ZH8000 (talk) 17:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Are you kidding me? We DISCUSSED THIS!. Fry1989 eh? 21:16, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Replacing '!' with '|' is not a good idea


Hey, you just did replace '!' with '|' in several tables on Comparison of European road signs. I think this is not a good idea, since it removes the header style from these rows. What was your itention?? -- 19:58, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

My intention was to fix the visual error with the country names. Compare before and after my edit. It was also inconsistent, notice Luxembourg not matching with the other country names. They should be uniform. Fry1989 eh? 20:14, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Fry1989 (talk · contribs), I must admitt I do not see the problem. Yes, '!' changes the text to bold and greys the background. This is exactely the intention! Luxembourg is different, because the row began with an '!'. And you must flush the cache of your browser before comparing! -- ZH8000 (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Fry1989 eh? 17:15, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Historical Fijian flags


Hello, sorry for the hassle, but given your apparent affinity for flags, I was wondering if you could help me with a few things in relation to some of Fiji's historical flags. You see, I created the page for List of Fijian flags a few months ago, and in gathering up flags to place in it, I stumbled across a few references to some alleged flags used in the country in the past, ones that I haven't managed to find that much information on, or images of either. Any advice you could possibly provide me on this? Or, if this isn't really your field, would you at least know somewhere/someplace that would know more on this? Thanks in advance.

Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 18:28, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I can try to help. Which flags are you referring to? Fry1989 eh? 17:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. Most of the flags in question supposedly hail from Fiji's pre-colonial years, though there are some from the colonial era itself. Here's what I know:
1) Flag of the Confederacy of Independent Kingdoms of Fiji, 1865-1867: The current Wikipedian version of this flag, shown here, shows it to be a five-pointed white star on dark blue. And yet, according to this article, the flag of the Confederacy featured a white eight-pointed star on a blue field. It even lists the Sydney Mail (12 August, 1865) as a source. I also stumbled across this FB post (not the most reliable source, I know, but it's something) by a Fijian flag designer that displays the same eight-pointed version. However, the version of the flag displayed everywhere else, including on on the FOTW website, displays the five-pointed version. This is rather confusing, especially considering the aforementioned article explains that the eight points on the star represented the number of Tribes that made up the Confederacy, which does make more sense than the seemingly random and meaningless five points of the more commonly displayed version (sure, I know not all the five-pointed stars featured on various national flags represent a specific number of things, but still).
2) Flag of the Kingdom of Bau, 1867-1871: Similarly, the present Wikipedian version of this flag, as shown here, shows it to be a sunburst and crown on a blue field. And yet, the same article from above mentions that the flag of that nation was a tricolour of "white, blue, and red, placed horizontally, with the sun rising out of the blue ground, and a crown in the top corner" (listing the Sydney Morning Herald of 30 July 1867 as a source). Which again creates confusion over the status of the all-blue version, which appears virtually everywhere relating to the Kingdom of Bau, including on the FOTW website. Though since the aforementioned article mentions that Bau had both a "King's standard" AND a "national ensign", it could be a possibility that the all-blue version was actually the former (an impression I've further gotten from this page on past Fijian flags, which mentions that said flag was based on the King's personal seal - perhaps not the most professional of pages, I know, but their information has to come from somewhere). Or it could be something else entirely. (I even requested the creation of said image at the Graphics Lab, even though it didn't quite turn out accurately, as seen here)
3) Alleged Flag of the Kingdom of Fiji, post-1871: Now this is the one that intrigues me the most. Given your affinity for flags, I assume you already know about the flag adopted by Fiji in 1871, white and blue with a dove in the centre. But here's the thing, the same Fiji Sun article from before mentions that this flag "didn't last very long", and that it was soon replaced by a "red flag divided in into four equal cantons by a blue cross with a white border and a crown in the centre", with the civil/merchant flag being the same, but "without the crown". This really caught my eye, as I have never even heard or seen anything anywhere else to even suggest the existence of this flag anywhere else. But it's still rather hard to ignore.
4) Supposed flag of Bau, 1860: Supposedly, at least according to this hubert herald article on Fiji, Seru Epenisa Cakobau, chieftain of Bau, introduced a flag for the island in 1860, which was "blue with a white coat of arms charged with a dove" (not so different from the later 1871 flag of a united Fiji), while also mentioning something about a separate royal flag (though, based on the description of it, it could just be the same as the 1871-1874 royal standard of Fiji, shown here, though maybe not.
5) 1883-1908 colonial flag of Fiji: The Wikipedian version of this flag displays the badge in the fly with a Tudor Crown. However, I've been thinking, since most British ensigns featuring crowns (such as with the flags of Queensland and Victoria) changed them from a St. Edward's Crown to a Tudor Crown after 1901, perhaps this flag would have borne a St. Edward's Crown prior to 1901 as well? After all, the badge is quite similar to that of the unofficial 19th century flag of British Columbia, which is shown to bear the St. Edward's version. But then again, this is purely speculative.
6) Fijian red ensigns: I know a red ensign version of the 1908 Fijian flag existed, as I have seen photos of it. Though I'm having trouble determining whether or not red versions of the 1877, 1883 and 1924 Fijian colonial flags existed as well, as there doesn't seem to be anything on them anywhere.
7) Order of the colours on the 1871 Fijian flag: Obviously, I've already mentioned the first flag of the Kingdom of Fiji. But here's the thing, I'm not sure whether or not the current version displayed on Wikipedia is the right version. Some of the sources I've already given you list the colours as being "blue and white", rather than the "white and blue" order currently displayed. I'm having real difficulty getting my head around this.
I deeply apologise for the congested barrage of information, but I just thought I should give you all I know on the matter. I know a lot of this would probably fit better on a Flag Talk page, but I didn't think that would really go anywhere (given that there isn't much activity on the Flag of Fiji Talk page, and the List of Fijian flags page is rather new, hence there is no Talk page yet). Obviously, I'm not expecting any magically conjured answers to all of this, but I just thought I should continue my search for information somewhere. Or, would you perhaps know of anyone/anywhere that might have such information? Sorry for the hassle again. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I will take a look, I'm just a bit slow at the moment. Fry1989 eh? 18:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
@Snow Lion Fenian:, So for #1, I would suggest that we indeed change the star to 8 points. For #2, both versions exist on Commons and I don't know which is correct. Regarding #3, I have no idea what to do about this. The description is not enough for me to even imagine how the flag actually looked. #4, I would just presume they are the same flag. #5, that is a good assumption. I will look at creating new files with the different crowns in the future. #6, those are plausible assumptions but will need more research. It is likely unofficial versions existed if nothing less. #7, if there are differing sources, I would leave this alone until we can find some photographs or better evidence. I hope this helps. Fry1989 eh? 17:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
@Fry1989: I understand, and thanks a lot for taking the time to read through this. I honestly never thought I'd be getting myself into this mess when I set about to create a List page for Fijian flags. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Hello again, sorry to bother you again, but I noticed you created an isolated version of the first badge of Colonial Fiji a few weeks ago, marked as being used from 1875-1883, despite the fact that FOTW lists the flag featuring said badge as being adopted in 1877. Can I ask why? Do you (genuine question) now have reason to believe the badge and flag were adopted in 1875 and not 1877? And do you think the titles of the 1877 Fijian flag and the 1877 Governor's flag should be changed to 1875 as well? Sorry again. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 23:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
It must have been something I missed. I will have to do some research and see which date is correct. Fry1989 eh? 17:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Montenegro Roundel


You got a problem with your roundel change – For one thing they have dark green painted aircraft, a light gray low viz roundel would contrasted to dramatically to be of any use, and I've seen no evidence (images) anywhere on the web. The other problem is this roundel from Montenegro (not quite the same) - look: here, here, & here (G4 Super) :Also note the G4 has been removed from service for a few years now – so how could it be new as of 2018? That source appears to be pretty dubious, I will give you some time to get it worked out before I revert last changes - FOX 52 (talk) 18:49, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Zscout370 and I consider the source for the new roundel to be legitimate. The link is from the Ministry of Defence. The gazette makes the roundel effective at the end of the month, so it will take time for images of the new roundel applied to aircraft IRL to begin to appear.
The other roundel you show, I have already made a request for in the Graphic Lab. It appears to have been in use alongside the 2006 roundel on a limited basis, but I can find no sources for it so there is no way to know when exactly it was used or if it was a trial roundel or not. Fry1989 eh? 19:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Rhodesian flag


I'd like to draw your attention to my comment at File talk:Flag of Rhodesia (1968-1979).svg. --Craig (t|c) 03:25, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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Traffic signs


Hey man !!! I just saw you are adding road traffic signs. I have seen the source of the Taiwanese road traffic signs from 1954 to 1958. Do you have more of them (maybe all). Cheers best greetings.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcdonut10 (talkcontribs) 17:46, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Mcdonut10:, the only source I have for historic signs in Taiwan are from this booklet (, , , ). And there is the current series of signs available on Commons. Fry1989 eh? 18:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Swedish Flag


Hi, im trying to input an change in the Wikipedia image of the Flag of Sweden. Following RGB "equivalents" of the NCS specifications (NCS 4055-R95B for blue and NCS 0580-Y10R for yellow) from official government
http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/sfs/20080888.pdf
http://www.notisum.se/rnp/document/?id=19830826
https://riksarkivet.se/sveriges-flaggas-farger
the RGB should be R:45, G:95, B:161 for blue and R:255, G:202, B:32 according to this conversion.
https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_converter.asp?color=ncs(4055-R95B)
https://www.w3schools.com/colors/colors_converter.asp?color=ncs(0580-Y10R)
(or use Pantone (approximation/conversion) 301 C and 116 C for blue and yellow, respectively, as also officially specified.)
This also looks waaay more how it looks IRL, which I see everyday, (even though this is just my opinion, the colours are from government specification, so the change is not based on my personal impression) compared to very (too!) bright current version. However, both Wikipedia and commons version I cannot edit, so maybe you could help, since I have seen you active in flags regarding colours etc. --Havsjö (talk) 16:49, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

I also can not edit either the Wikipedia or Commons version of this file. You will need to create a discussion on the talk page, which I would support. Fry1989 eh? 20:27, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Thanks man, I created a talk page here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Flag_of_Sweden.svg#Adjust_colour_shades --Havsjö (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Captions


DO NOT remove any of the captions in the info boxes, regarding the military articles (Bahrain Air Force, Polish Air Force, Qatar Air Force and so on...) - there no need to take away information from the reader FOX 52 (talk) 16:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

The information is self-evident, it doesn't need a caption. Captions are for things that need to be explained. Fry1989 eh? 16:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
So the readers are able to determine the difference between a seal, logo, emblem, and insignia? - The caption in the template is provided for a reason. FOX 52 (talk) 18:19, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
A seal, a logo, an emblem, a coat of arms, they're all essentially the same thing with different names. But I'll leave the caption alone. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Fair enuff in turn I'll restore the roundels to there proper section - FOX 52 (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

native name


There is one area where I seek your thoughts on which is the native name in the info box i.e.: Bangladesh Air Force the native name is “বাংলাদেশ বিমান বাহিনী” . Now it’s already mentioned in the intro, and I don’t see how it helps the reader understand the content any better, specifically for English Wikipedia –(NOTE: I don't see them same being reciprocated USAF Greek page - thoughts?? - FOX 52 (talk) 00:33, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I have no strong opinion one way or the other. It is in the infobox though, but on most articles it is also duplicated in the introductory paragrapgh. So do we really need it twice? I think for some articles it is contentious though, I recall on the Indian Air Force it was removed on purpose, but I didn't go looking into the matter. I also appreciate your change of mind on the DR Congo air force article. Fry1989 eh? 16:38, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
OK sounds good - I'm gonna pull'em, it seem redundant - FOX 52 (talk) 19:59, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

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Possible additions to the Canadian flag list page


Hello again, sorry for the hassle, but since you have a liking for flags and appear to be Canadian (or at least that's what I've gathered from your profile page, apologies if I'm wrong), I could use your advice in relation to a matter pertaining to the List of Canadian flags page, if it's not too much trouble. You see, there are a certain few flags that I see as relevant to Canadian history that don't appear on said page, which leaves me unsure as to whether I should add them to the list or not, or what section I should put them under if I do. Now I have brought up this issue elsewhere, but never received any response on it, so I would certainly value your input on the matter? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:31, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Snow Lion Fenian:, Sure, we can talk about it. Which flags are you looking at adding? Fry1989 eh? 20:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Thanks for replying (and sorry for the delay in replying myself, I was indisposed over the last week). And in response to your question, the flags I was thinking of adding are those of the Hudson's Bay Company and the North West Company (all below). After all, I'm no expert on Canadian history, but I do know that both of these trading companies did play a prominent role in what's now Canada from the 17th to 19th centuries, with the HBC in particular effectively ruling a large portion of Canada (Rupert's Land) until 1870. And although I know the NWC was never as powerful or prominent as the HBC, it still held notable sway during its relatively short tenure. Which does lead me to believe that there is a strong case for placing the flags of these companies in List of Canadian flags. After all, there are other such examples on other flag list pages for including the flags of historical trading companies that once wielded prominent power in those countries, such as:
1) The various flags of the British East India Company in List of Indian flags, as well as List of Malaysian flags.
2) The various flags of the British East Africa Company in List of flags of Kenya.
3) The flag of the British South Africa Company in both List of Zimbabwean flags and List of Rhodesian flags.
However, since no one has ever added the HBC and NWC flags to the Canadian list page before, it does make me wonder if there's a reason they aren't included. Which is currently the only thing stopping me from adding them by my own hand. Now I did bring this issue up on the Talk page for LOCF, but never received any response on it, despite being over a year ago. Hence I really would value what you have to say about this matter. Thanks.

Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Snow Lion Fenian:, I agree that they are relevant and do not see any reason why they would be purposefully excluded. I would say go ahead and add them. Fry1989 eh? 18:38, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Thanks for that, and I definitely will add them to the page as soon as possible. Just one more thing though; Which section on the LOCF page would you recommend putting them under? Organisational flags, perhaps? Or would you advise creating a completely new section for them? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 22:37, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I would suggest the historical section. Fry1989 eh? 18:34, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Done and dusted, and thanks again for your input. Though there is actually one other thing; I did put the latest version of the HBC Ensign in the historical section with all the others, as you said, but I was just wondering as to whether or not that particular one really qualifies as an historical flag, given that the HBC is currently still functioning as a company (unlike the NWC). So does that mean, do you think, that the post-1801 HBC flag is still official as well? Sorry, about this, the Flag of the Hudson's Bay Company page is rather sketchy on this matter, it just seems to say that the current HBC flag is "based on the Governor's standard". And again, sorry for the hassle. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
@Snow Lion Fenian:, I am not aware of the HBC still using the flag, but I am also not aware of it ever having been revoked either. They do sometimes use the coat of arms on a white background seen here, but I know nothing about that flag. FOTW has limited information on it as well. Fry1989 eh? 17:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989: (Apologies for the delay in responding) I understand. I suppose it would probably be best to leave the 1801 HBC flag in the historical section, for now anyway. Thanks for that. But since we're on the subject of the HBC and NWC, I wouldn't mind getting your input on one or two more things, before this matter is put to rest, if that's okay;
1) Regarding the aforementioned white HBC "Governor's" flag from the FOTW link above, as well as both here and here; I was considering making a request in the Graphics Lab for this flag to be created in SVG form, but I'm rather unsure about the CR status of the arms of the HBC (which of course features on the flag). As you can see, a photo of the arms appears on this File here, but I'm rather confused by the CR label on it, and I'm not really an expert on Wikipedia CR issues either. I was hoping that perhaps you'd know what I should do?
2) Regarding the NWC arms; I was also thinking of making a request in the Graphics Lab for that Company's arms (seen in an illustration on this File here) to be created in SVG form. But again, I'm also rather unsure by the wording of the CR labels on that file. Perhaps you could give me some advice? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
A good graphic designer should be able to create free (non-copyrighted) SVG drawings of both coats of arms based on those images. So making a request is no problem. Fry1989 eh? 15:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
@Fry1989: Duly noted, and thanks for all your advice and input over the last few weeks. Though given that I already have a few pending requests in the Graphics Lab, it could be a while before I go through with such requests for these Company emblems. But until then, thanks again. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 23:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

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captions


Please stop removing the captions, as (you siad you would do last time - yet there you are: here here here here here and so. - Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 00:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

I have made my position entirely clear, you have no policy to the contrary, you're just going to have to follow me around if they're so desperately important to you. Fry1989 eh? 15:32, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
OK good to know that you don't honor what you say "But I'll leave the caption alone" - FOX 52 (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
People change their minds. I'm allowed to change my mind. Moreover, reverting my entire edit as "unneccessary", something that not only takes time and effort but is also clearly beneficial to the project, certainly doesn't endear me. Fry1989 eh? 15:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
@FOX 52:, I'll extend an olive branch. I'll stop removing the captions, and even go out of my way to add them back, if you stop the extreme ownership of your own files on Commons such as File:Georgian Air Force emblem.svg when an improvement is made. The colours I changed it to should match the roundel and flag, and it doesn't change anything in regards to your authorship. I'd really rather not upload a new version separately. I also would like to consolidate various duplications, such as File:Roundel of Turkmenistan.svg and File:Turkmenistan Air Force Roundel.svg. If I remember right, the duplication was unintentional, and we really do not need two of the same thing. They could be merged (leaving which ever version is superior) under the "Roundel of..." file name standard which I previously created. Fry1989 eh? 17:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
As long as the variations are backed up with a source / photo (changes shouldn't be arbitrary done) - FOX 52 (talk) 17:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
That is agreeable. In regards to the Turkmenistan Air Force roundel, I believe your version is superior. I was never happy with the stars on mine. Fry1989 eh? 19:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)