Wikipedia:Baltic_States_notice_board

Wikipedia:Baltic States notice board

Wikipedia:Baltic States notice board


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Distruptive user

  • Please be aware that User:Ivan Bogdanov (also has edited anonimously using IVANOV TRUD as edit summary), who has made several distruptive edits to articles related to Heads of Latvian government, has also edited Prime Minister of Estonia and Prime Minister of Lithuania, please check whether the content of these and similar articles matches article's scope and any previous consensus on what the content of the article should be. Note that user has been ignoring atempts to communicate with him ~~Xil...sist! 08:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposed article deletion, Soviet occupations

RU Wikipedia

Can someone address this item regarding mass deportations in the Latvia article?

  • "1941, 1949 – mass repressions and the dispatch into Siberia of discordant with the Communist regime, also criminals, participants in the Fascist motions, into 1949 former soldier Waffens SS, prostitutes. The motion of partisans “forest brothers” - act until 1956."

original

  • 1941, 1949 — массовые репрессии и высылки в Сибирь несогласных с коммунистическим режимом, также преступников, участников фашистских движений, в 1949 бывших солдат Waffen SS, проституток. Движение партизан «лесные братья» — действуют до 1956 года.

That it was prostitutes, criminals, and Nazis who were deported claptrap based on Soviet "sources" has been leaking into the English WP as well. PētersV (talk) 20:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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Articles in need of attention

Here please list the articles related to the Baltic States that are tagged as violating NPOV, lacking references, needing attention, copyediting, or general clean up. As well, list here stubs that deserve to be expanded. Please add new entries at the top of this list and please describe what needs to be done.

  • Estophobia —- was nominated for deletion. The arguments need to be sorted through, the reasonable ones taken into account, and the quality of the article raised level high enough to avoid deletion. Digwuren 16:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Latvian Legions should be merged into Latvian Legion---- Xil/talk 16:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Latgalian language – I've suggested to split it i.e. move most article to new page titled Latgalian dialect. Please join discussion and vote on talk page -- Xil/talk 15:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Talk:Teutonic-Estonian War – The article's title seems to be original research; I have proposed alternatives on the talk page (including an expansion to Livonian Crusade). Olessi 15:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Occupation of Baltic Republics has an ongoing survey to move the article to "Occupation of Baltic States"; is in need of various inline references (I have tagged a few paragraphs, but not all) and copy-editing; allegations of non-NPOV title, similar to those on Talk:1940–1945 occupation of Latvia, have resurfaced, so some tagging "action" may be oncoming. Doc15071969 09:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Neo-Nazism in Estonia – as it is, it's more like propaganda leaflet. I suggest voting for deletion, and if someone wishes, re-start it as a whole. Currently nonsense. ConstanzTalk 10:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Estonian Independence Party – vandalist assaults, claiming the party is Neo-Nazi. ConstanzTalk 10:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Talk:Estonian Liberation War needs some attention, as the same Soviet guys have found 'anti-Soviet POV' again.ConstanzTalk 08:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Occupation of Latvia 1940–1945 A group of comrades suggest Baltic states were never occupied and thus, the word occupation should not be used. I've listed the dispute here, it might be of some help. Please see article discussion.--ConstanzTalk 14:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Latvian-Soviet War -- Ghirlandajo has renamed the article without discussion. I won't be participating at Wiki very much anymore -- I don't have time for this sort of idiocy. The article should be expanded, or the similar Estonian article should be renamed also, and then let us concede to renaming everything as Soviet apologists desire. This is pretty much the nadir of Wikiidiocy -- sorry, but the war was not merely or even mostly "Latvian-Soviet" but involved various parties, as described in the article. Latvia was at war with Germany also, for instance. Context. --Pēteris Cedriņš 14:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    • It seems that the reason is that "we don't use Great Patriotic War for the Eastern front of WWII" ( Ghirlandajos' next edit summary after the move, no other particular reason to say that). That doesn't make sence and infact the new title is POV – Latvians generaly call this war "Battles of Freedom", not Liberation war. Soviet forces were mainly formed from Latvian rifflemen many of them left soviet army, because they were against soviet policy and rest of soviet forces were driven out of most parts of Latvia. Most of the fithing happened between Latvians and their alies vs Germans and anti-soviet Russians. Are we going to call every soviet fiasco a "soviet war" ? -- Xil/talk 03:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
      • This is Ghirla's attitude towards every edit by any non-(pro)-Russian on any such subject, basically, and I shall no longer wade through this shit, sorry -- at least not until I have lots of free time. It is very tiring to try to edit when there is a tidal wave of Soviet apologists ready to mow down everything that does not conform to Stalin's books -- redone, in a new guise, hip-hip-hooray, so cute and funky! May Irpen and Ghirla enjoy themselves, along with all other polittekhnologi. I won't be back too soon. Ardievu! --Pēteris Cedriņš04:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Xil -- yes, Latvians most often call it brīvības cīņas, of course. I spent time comparing what English language texts call it, trying to distill a title and weighing the alternatives. You have to compare what that is literally, as a translator, to what similar conflicts are called. --Pēteris Cedriņš 05:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Ilva Liepiņa tagged as POV, makes impression that she's a porn star or something -- Xil/talk 02:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • The nationality of Vlado Perlemuter is not clear from the wiki article. Was he Pole, Jew or Frenchman? Orionus 13:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
  • January Uprising Lithuanian role in 1863 Uprising not reflected at all.
  • Kaunas University of Technology really needs some attention. Encyclopaedia Editing Dude 18:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
  • National Power Unity. I added a note on the threat of violence made yesterday; I am not sure if/how to list this article as a current event. --Pēteris Cedriņš 12:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Portal:Latvia After a long absence, I updated current news and picture; perhaps someone can suggest/update the featured article? —Pēters J. Vecrumba 06:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Another update done (news, picture, october dates in history), would appreciate someone tracking down a good feature article to replace the current one. —Pēters J. Vecrumba 15:21, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Memel. There is a disputeTalk:Memel (disambiguation)#Memel redirect to the city or the disambiguation page what it means--Molobo 14:46, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Articles Districts of Latvia and Counties of Latvia should be merged and resulting article should be Districts of Latvia. If no one objects, I could do it in a few weeks. -Yyy 12:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I think that is a very clear case. Go right ahead! Renata 14:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Done. -Yyy 08:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Politics of Lithuania: the description of the administrative division in the article requires serious wikifying. Linas Lituanus 17:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Kohuke and Curd snack should be merged (but under which name ?) -- Xil/talk 23:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Merged under English name. Renata 02:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Baltic Way – maybe someone could find a free image? Renata 17:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Alūksne has been tagged for POV by Ghirlandajo -- see its talk page.
  • Is Flakans War a valid article? After reading it carefully, the article seems suspect; for one, the UN didn't exist during the proposed time frame of the event--Confuzion 02:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Not only did the UN not exist -- Estonia and Latvia didn't yet exist, either. --Pēteris Cedriņš 08:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Tagged Pērkonkrusts, an article on the extremist group(s), as factually inaccurate. See its talk page. --Pēteris Cedriņš 02:15, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Singing Revolution Section on Estonia is written in heroic manner, while almoust nothing is said about Latvia and Lithuania -- Xil/talk 08:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I have proposed merging Baigais gads into Occupation of Latvia; see Talk:Occupation of Latvia. Pēteris Cedriņš 01:34, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Merge completed into Occupation of Latvia 1940–1945, more work necessary to expand original "Occupation of Latvia" article which only dealt with the first Soviet occupation. —Pēters 04:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Mediaeval artist Bernt Notke needs some more information on his works in the Baltic states.Most info with google is in local language, are there pictures of the remains of his Danse macabre or altar?--Kresspahl 14:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Pilėnai could be expanded and language could be corrected DeirYassin 21:11, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Balts: This edit needs to be toned down and wikified. --Ghirla | talk 17:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Agreed; not only "toned down" but corrected; the Latvians article is also in need of major revision (and some serious deletions...). Pēteris Cedriņš 15:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Added factual accuracy tag to Bermontians -- see Talk:Bermontians. The article needs considerable expansion, besides requiring major changes. --Pēteris Cedriņš 16:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The Latvian mythology article needs serious clean-up (as do many of the articles in the list there -- many require name changes/moving). Pēteris Cedriņš 15:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
    • What would you say if I merged all the stubs into one list, say List of deities in Latvian mythology and List of mythologic holidays in Latvia (or something). Almost exactly the same problem is with Lithuanian mythology. Renata 14:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
      • I would say -- great idea! --Pēteris Cedriņš 14:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
        • Ok then. Give me till Monday and I'll do it. Are titles ok? maybe it should be List of pagan holidays in Latvia? Renata 04:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
          • Seems like it would be a good start at a simple redo of Latvian mythology, sections being a historical overview, list of deities+description (not pointing to other articles) and list of holidays; I added a Talk:Latvian mythology page --Pēters 17:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
          • Deities are done. Comments welcome on the talk page. Renata 06:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The "Demographics" section in the main Latvia article is tagged as neutrality disputed; no reason given. --Pēters 23:40, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The "History" section in the main Latvia article is tagged as neutrality disputed; no reason given. --Pēteris Cedriņš 15:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • History of Latvia is tagged as neutrality disputed. --Pēteris Cedriņš 15:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
    • The above 3 were tagged by Efenstor all around (now) a week to week and a half ago. What is Wiki policy on removing tags which were added with no explanation? -- Pēters 06:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
      • I asked the user what's the problem. If no sensible answer is given in a couple of days – feel free to remove. Renata 14:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
        • I greatly expanded the "History" section at Latvia over the past couple of days, and plan to work on History of Latvia in the near future. I would appreciate criticism/editing of the section, and I think the "Demographics" section can now be untagged. Please see Talk:Latvia ("POV sections"). --Pēteris Cedriņš 22:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
          • I've left coment in that EU-POV disscusion, also I think one of the sections should be splited in two (see article's talk page) -- Xil/talk 19:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Territorial changes of the Baltic States is tagged as "factual accuracy disputed" and needs citations. --Pēteris Cedriņš 15:46, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Romuva – modern revival of paganism in Lithuania, tagged as needing review from a professional DeirYassin 13:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Jurgis Baltrušaitis – unreferenced. Renata 02:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
  • History of Russians in Latvia --Pēteris Cedriņš 23:43, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I've un-POV'ed the first section, which I've completely rewritten, and moved the cleanup/POV (now section-wise) flags below. --Pēters 03:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Next section added covering through to end of 1917 Revolution. --Pēters 00:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Lithuanian underground government (about the government of Lithuania in 1941) DeirYassin 18:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I doubt much about the title of the article. It sounds not very English. Linas Lituanus 13:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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Resources

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Web

  • Vector-images.com has a bunch of coat of arms for Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. All those gif images are free to use. Upload to commons under this template.
  • http://www.lnb.lv/digitala_biblioteka/ has scans of old papers, postcards and other such images that are likely PD (unfortunetly it's only in Latvian, but I guess you'll be able to find your way around by cliking buttons on top of the page) ---- Xil/talk 12:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  • KGB document images: Lithuanians have set up . It's going to be a goldmine of Wikipedia sources regarding the Soviet occupation. Digwuren 17:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

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