Wikipedia:CFD
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion
Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
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V | Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | Total |
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CfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 13 | 13 |
TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 17 | 17 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 23 | 23 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Discussions awaiting closure
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 16 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 15 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 13 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 10 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 8 (2 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
Nomination procedure
Twinkle
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
MassCFD
You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 April 25|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 16:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 311 open requests (refresh).
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Soccer clubs in Port Elizabeth to Category:Soccer clubs in Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Port Elizabeth to Category:Sport in Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Rugby union players from Port Elizabeth to Category:Rugby union players from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cricketers from Port Elizabeth to Category:Cricketers from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople from Port Elizabeth to Category:Sportspeople from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Politicians from Port Elizabeth to Category:Politicians from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 12:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Musicians from Port Elizabeth to Category:Musicians from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actors from Port Elizabeth to Category:Actors from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Port Elizabeth to Category:People from Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:55, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military units and formations in Port Elizabeth to Category:Military units and formations in Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:History of Port Elizabeth to Category:History of Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Port Elizabeth to Category:Buildings and structures in Gqeberha – C2C: Per parent cat of Category:Gqeberha and main article Gqeberha moved at RM. AusLondonder (talk) 11:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Surface features of Uranian moons to Category:Surface features of Uranus' moons – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:20, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Geological features on the Moon to Category:Surface features of the Moon – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dreams F.C. (Ghana) to Category:Dreams F.C. – C2D with Dreams F.C. Intrisit (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dreams F.C. (Ghana) managers to Category:Dreams F.C. managers – C2D with Dreams F.C. Intrisit (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dreams F.C. (Ghana) players to Category:Dreams F.C. players – C2D with Dreams F.C. Intrisit (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Nilo–Saharan languages multilingual support templates to Category:Nilo–Saharan multilingual support templates – C2C: parent is Category:Wikipedia multilingual support templates, while siblings include Category:Indo-European multilingual support templates and Category:Niger–Congo multilingual support templates PK2 (talk) 08:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:North African-Jewish diaspora to Category:Maghrebi-Jews diaspora – C2D: North African Jews is a redirect to Maghrebi Jews. Aldij (talk) 18:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Albanian atheist writers to Category:Albanian writers on atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on atheism and this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_19#Category:Writers_on_Atheism Mason (talk) 13:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Milyang Park clan to Category:Miryang Park clan – C2D. Article renamed. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 11:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Vijayanand to Category:Films scored by Vijay Anand (composer) – C2D: He is Vijay Anand (composer). Kailash29792 (talk) 10:16, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Early Modern Russian literature to Category:Early modern Russian literature – C2B: Parent Category:Early modern literature. NLeeuw (talk) 06:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:FC Saxan players to Category:FC Saksan players – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:FC Saxan managers to Category:FC Saksan managers – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:FC Saxan to Category:FC Saksan – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States politicians killed during the Civil War to Category:Politicians killed in the American Civil War - this new name is shorter and less ambiguous, as the category lists both Union and Confederate politicians who died in the ACW. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Robert Houston to Category:Films directed by Robert Houston (actor) – C2D: Robert Houston (actor). 1857a (talk) 03:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Hou Yong to Category:Films directed by Hou Yong (cinematographer) – C2D: Hou Yong (cinematographer). 1857a (talk) 03:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People of Hungarian German descent to Category:People of Hungarian-German descent – C2C: parent is Hungarian-German people and siblings are People of Hungarian-Romanian descent , People of Hungarian-Romani descent, People of Hungarian-Jewish descent Mason (talk) 02:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by H. Manning Haynes to Category:Films directed by Manning Haynes – C2D: Manning Haynes. 1857a (talk) 02:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Alan Hale to Category:Films directed by Alan Hale Sr. – C2D: Alan Hale Sr. 1857a (talk) 02:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by John Gilbert to Category:Films directed by John Gilbert (actor) – C2D: John Gilbert (actor). 1857a (talk) 02:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by David Field to Category:Films directed by David Field (actor) – C2D: David Field (actor). 1857a (talk) 02:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Larry Ferguson to Category:Films directed by Larry Ferguson (screenwriter) – C2D: Larry Ferguson (screenwriter). 1857a (talk) 02:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by David M. Evans to Category:Films directed by David Mickey Evans – C2D: David Mickey Evans. 1857a (talk) 02:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Chris Evans to Category:Films directed by Chris Evans (actor) – C2D: Chris Evans (actor). 1857a (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Arthur Davis to Category:Films directed by Arthur Davis (animator) – C2D: Arthur Davis (animator). 1857a (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:LGBT people by ethnic group to Category:LGBT people by ethnicity – C2C: People by ethnicity is parent Mason (talk) 02:18, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Assassinated politicians of the Russian Empire to Category:Assassinated politicians from the Russian Empire – C2C: Politicians from the Russian Empire is parent Mason (talk) 01:54, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under contestants to Category:Drag Race Down Under contestants – C2C. Tagged but not listed * Pppery * it has begun... 00:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under templates to Category:Drag Race Down Under templates
- Category:RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under winners to Category:Drag Race Down Under winners
- Category:Neighborhoods in Dharwad to Category:Neighbourhoods in Dharwad – C2C. Tagged on March 24, not listed. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:DR Motor Company to Category:Car manufacturers of Italy – C2F (an alt rename proposal was tagged by an IP in March but not listed) * Pppery * it has begun... 00:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Lal to Category:Films directed by Lal (actor) – C2D: Lal (actor). 1857a (talk) 00:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Kim Dong-won (1962) to Category:Films directed by Kim Dong-won (director, born 1962) – C2D: Kim Dong-won (director, born 1962). 1857a (talk) 00:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Kim Dong-won to Category:Films directed by Kim Dong-won (filmmaker, born 1955) – C2D: Kim Dong-won (filmmaker, born 1955). 1857a (talk) 00:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Dipendra K Khanal to Category:Films directed by Dipendra K. Khanal – C2D: Dipendra K. Khanal. 1857a (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Ahmed Khan to Category:Films directed by Ahmed Khan (choreographer) – C2D: Ahmed Khan (choreographer). 1857a (talk) 00:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Khavn to Category:Films directed by Khavn De La Cruz – C2D: Khavn De La Cruz. 1857a (talk) 00:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ottoman Kurdish politicians to Category:Kurdish politicians from the Ottoman Empire – C2C: parents are Kurdish people from the Ottoman Empire (−) (±)Politicians from the Ottoman Empire Mason (talk) 00:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Daniel Davies to Category:Films scored by Daniel Davies (musician) – C2D: Daniel Davies (musician). 1857a (talk) 23:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Bohemia to Category:Films scored by Bohemia (rapper) – C2D: Bohemia (rapper). 1857a (talk) 23:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish Ottoman politicians to Category:Jewish politicians from the Ottoman Empire – C2C: parents (Jews from the Ottoman Empire (−) (±)Politicians from the Ottoman Empire) both use from the ottoman empire Mason (talk) 23:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Xulfi to Category:Films scored by Zulfiqar Jabbar Khan – C2D: Zulfiqar Jabbar Khan. 1857a (talk) 23:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Timothy Williams to Category:Films scored by Timothy Williams (composer) – C2D: Timothy Williams (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Patrick Williams to Category:Films scored by Patrick Williams (composer) – C2D: Patrick Williams (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by George Wilkins to Category:Films scored by George Wilkins (composer) – C2D: George Wilkins (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:44, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Charles Williams to Category:Films scored by Charles Williams (composer) – C2D: Charles Williams (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Vinod to Category:Films scored by Vinod (composer) – C2D: Vinod (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Peter Thomas to Category:Films scored by Peter Thomas (composer) – C2D: Peter Thomas (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Mark Thomas to Category:Films scored by Mark Thomas (composer) – C2D: Mark Thomas (composer). 1857a (talk) 23:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films scored by Shaan to Category:Films scored by Shaan (singer) – C2D: Shaan (singer). 1857a (talk) 23:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Early Modern history of Ukraine to Category:Early modern history of Ukraine – C2B: Parent Category:Early modern period by country. NLeeuw (talk) 21:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Works about Balkans to Category:Works about the Balkans – C2A. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television series by Entertainment Studios to Category:Television series by Allen Media Group – C2D with Allen Media Group, renamed from Entertainment Studios. Intrisit (talk) 20:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Entertainment Studios films to Category:Allen Media Group films – C2D with Allen Media Group, renamed from Entertainment Studios. Intrisit (talk) 20:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Public Housing in New Zealand to Category:Public housing in New Zealand – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:British monarchy to Category:Monarchy of the United Kingdom – C2D: Monarchy of the United Kingdom. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:40, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Thai monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Thailand – C2D: Monarchy of Thailand. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Sweden – C2D: Monarchy of Sweden. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Spanish monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Spain – C2D: Monarchy of Spain. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monarchy in New Zealand to Category:Monarchy of New Zealand – C2D: Monarchy of New Zealand. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch monarchy to Category:Monarchy of the Netherlands – C2D: Monarchy of the Netherlands. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Malaysian monarchy to Category:Monarchies of Malaysia – C2D: Monarchies of Malaysia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monarchy in Jamaica to Category:Monarchy of Jamaica – C2D: Monarchy of Jamaica. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monarchy in Fiji to Category:Monarchy of Fiji – C2D: Monarchy of Fiji. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cambodian monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Cambodia – C2D: Monarchy of Cambodia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Belgium – C2D: Monarchy of Belgium. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monarchy in Australia to Category:Monarchy of Australia – C2D: Monarchy of Australia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danish monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Denmark – C2D: Monarchy of Denmark. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Norwegian monarchy to Category:Monarchy of Norway – C2D: Monarchy of Norway. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in the United Kingdom to Category:Theatre of the United Kingdom – C2D: Theatre of the United Kingdom. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in the Czech Republic to Category:Theatre of the Czech Republic – C2D: Theatre of the Czech Republic. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Zambia to Category:Theatre of Zambia – C2D: Theatre of Zambia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Turkey to Category:Theatre of Turkey – C2D: Theatre of Turkey. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Sri Lanka to Category:Theatre of Sri Lanka – C2D: Theatre of Sri Lanka. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Poland to Category:Theatre of Poland – C2D: Theatre of Poland. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Pakistan to Category:Theatre of Pakistan – C2D: Theatre of Pakistan. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Lebanon to Category:Theatre of Lebanon – C2D: Theatre of Lebanon. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Kosovo to Category:Theatre of Kosovo – C2D: Theatre of Kosovo. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Japan to Category:Theatre of Japan – C2D: Theatre of Japan. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Italy to Category:Theatre of Italy – C2D: Theatre of Italy. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Indonesia to Category:Theatre of Indonesia – C2D: Theatre of Indonesia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in India to Category:Theatre of India – C2D: Theatre of India. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in France to Category:Theatre of France – C2D: Theatre of France. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Estonia to Category:Theatre of Estonia – C2D: Theatre of Estonia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Denmark to Category:Theatre of Denmark – C2D: Theatre of Denmark. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in China to Category:Theatre of China – C2D: Theatre of China. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Professional wrestling in Newark, New Jersey to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Newark, New Jersey – C2C: To match contents of category. User:Namiba 14:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Canada to Category:Theatre of Canada – C2D: Theatre of Canada. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Cameroon to Category:Theatre of Cameroon – C2D: Theatre of Cameroon. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Jersey to Category:Theatre of Jersey – C2D: Theatre of Jersey. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Burkina Faso to Category:Theatre of Burkina Faso – C2D: Theatre of Burkina Faso. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Professional wrestling in Buffalo, New York to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Buffalo, New York – C2C: To match contents of category. User:Namiba 14:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Professional wrestling in Richmond, Virginia to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Richmond, Virginia – C2C: All articles in category are about shows. User:Namiba 14:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Theatre in Australia to Category:Theatre of Australia – C2D: Theatre of Australia. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:World Rugby Under 20 Championship to Category:World Rugby U20 Championship – C2D per World Rugby U20 Championship. Article was moved in July 2023. Bcp67 (talk) 14:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Paraguay to Category:Education ministers of Paraguay – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Morocco to Category:Education ministers of Morocco – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Environment Ministers of the Maldives to Category:Environment ministers of the Maldives – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fisheries Ministers of the Faroe Islands to Category:Fisheries ministers of the Faroe Islands – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Provincial Ministers of Zambia to Category:Provincial ministers of Zambia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transportation Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Transportation ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Somaliland to Category:Education ministers of Somaliland – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Education ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Education ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Liberia to Category:Education ministers of Liberia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Jamaica to Category:Education ministers of Jamaica – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Egypt to Category:Education ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of Brazil to Category:Education ministers of Brazil – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education and Culture Ministers of Uruguay to Category:Education and culture ministers of Uruguay – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Irrigation Ministers of Egypt to Category:Irrigation ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communications Ministers of Egypt to Category:Communications ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Administrative Development Ministers of Egypt to Category:Administrative development ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Civil Aviation Ministers of Somaliland to Category:Civil aviation ministers of Somaliland – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Labour Ministers of Botswana to Category:Labour ministers of Botswana – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Justice Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Justice ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Agriculture Ministers of India to Category:Agriculture ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Agriculture Ministers of Egypt to Category:Agriculture ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Civil Service Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Civil service ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Interior ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Economic Affairs Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Economic affairs ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Endowments Ministers of Egypt to Category:Endowments ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Municipal Affairs Ministers of Egypt to Category:Municipal affairs ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Somaliland to Category:Interior ministers of Somaliland – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tourism Ministers of Andorra to Category:Tourism ministers of Andorra – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transport Ministers of Ivory Coast to Category:Transport ministers of Ivory Coast – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Paraguay to Category:Interior ministers of Paraguay – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Information Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Information ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Württemberg to Category:Interior ministers of Württemberg – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Iran to Category:Interior ministers of Iran – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Egypt to Category:Interior ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Interior Ministers of Azerbaijan to Category:Interior ministers of Azerbaijan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Health Ministers of Bahrain to Category:Health ministers of Bahrain – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Health Ministers of Palestine to Category:Health ministers of Palestine – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Health Ministers of Zimbabwe to Category:Health ministers of Zimbabwe – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Tonga to Category:Defence ministers of Tonga – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defense Ministers of the Republic of China to Category:Defense ministers of the Republic of China – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Egypt to Category:Defence ministers of Egypt – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Power of India to Category:Ministers of power of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Culture Ministers of India to Category:Culture ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Coal Ministers of India to Category:Coal ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Education Ministers of India to Category:Education ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Steel Ministers of India to Category:Steel ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Railway Ministers of India to Category:Railway ministers of India – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Union Ministers from United Andhra Pradesh to Category:Union ministers from United Andhra Pradesh – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Agriculture Ministers of Mali to Category:Agriculture ministers of Mali – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Beach volleyball at the Summer Universiade to Category:Beach volleyball at the Summer World University Games – C2D: Beach volleyball at the Summer World University Games. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:15, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note that this the target was previously listed as the current name, which I've fixed at the category tag and in this nomination. Moving this back up to the top to reset the timer so it has a full 48 hours. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films about Phil Ochs to Category:Documentary films about Phil Ochs – C2C: Per the rest of Category:Documentary films about singers. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Württemberg to Category:Finance ministers of Württemberg – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of the Solomon Islands to Category:Finance ministers of the Solomon Islands – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Norway to Category:Finance ministers of Norway – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Niue to Category:Finance ministers of Niue – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Japan to Category:Finance ministers of Japan – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Finland to Category:Finance ministers of Finland – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Ecuador to Category:Finance ministers of Ecuador – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Cyprus to Category:Finance ministers of Cyprus – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Chile to Category:Finance ministers of Chile – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Burkina Faso to Category:Finance ministers of Burkina Faso – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for finance of Abkhazia to Category:Finance ministers of Abkhazia – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of finance of Afghanistan to Category:Finance ministers of Afghanistan – C2C: Per Category:Finance ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Labour Ministers of Nauru to Category:Labour ministers of Nauru – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:10, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Labour of Israel to Category:Labour ministers of Israel – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:09, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Italian Ministers of Labour to Category:Labour ministers of Italy – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Labor ministers (Germany) to Category:Labor ministers of Germany – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Taiwanese Ministers of Labor to Category:Labor ministers of Taiwan – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Labour of Finland to Category:Labour ministers of Finland – C2C: Per Category:Labor ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 17:04, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Slovakia to Category:Defence ministers of Slovakia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers for Defence of Luxembourg to Category:Defence ministers of Luxembourg – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Lithuania to Category:Defence ministers of Lithuania – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defense of Israel to Category:Defense ministers of Israel – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bissau-Guinean Ministers of Defense to Category:Defence ministers of Guinea-Bissau – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Estonia to Category:Defence ministers of Estonia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Czechoslovakia to Category:Defence ministers of Czechoslovakia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Defence ministers of Pakistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian Ministers of Defence to Category:Defence ministers of Romania – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Papua New Guinea to Category:Defence ministers of Papua New Guinea – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Somalia to Category:Defence ministers of Somalia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of São Tomé and Príncipe to Category:Defence ministers of São Tomé and Príncipe – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Tajikistan to Category:Defence ministers of Tajikistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Turkmenistan to Category:Defence ministers of Turkmenistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:36, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Venezuelan Ministers of Defense to Category:Defense ministers of Venezuela – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:35, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Uzbekistan to Category:Defence ministers of Uzbekistan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Vietnam to Category:Defence ministers of Vietnam – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of Zambia to Category:Defence ministers of Zambia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 16:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:New Zealand defence ministers to Category:Defence ministers of New Zealand – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danish Defence Ministers to Category:Defence ministers of Denmark – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Mongolia to Category:Defence ministers of Mongolia – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defense Ministers of Laos to Category:Defense ministers of Laos – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:58, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Kyrgyzstan to Category:Defence ministers of Kyrgyzstan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defence of Kazakhstan to Category:Defence ministers of Kazakhstan – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:54, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Defence Ministers of India to Category:Defence ministers of India – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian Ministers of Defence to Category:Defence ministers of Belgium – C2C: Per Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ministers of Defense of Azerbaijan to Category:Defence ministers of Azerbaijan – C2C: Per Category:Ministry of Defence (Azerbaijan) and Category:Defense ministers by country AusLondonder (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all word order changes for the political office, or changes from "Ministers for [dept]" to "Ministers of [dept]", unless demonstrated to be local usage. Especially opposing "Ministers of Finance" to "Finance ministers" – I recently renamed these according to local usage; where there is no article for the position in the country, I followed the majority usage in the biography articles. They do not have to follow the wording "Finance ministers" from the parent Category:Finance ministers by country. Note: I am not opposing decapitalisation, nor moving to "of [Country]", which can go ahead speedily. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Wasn't aware, sorry for the extra work these noms have made. Thought I was helping out but you're two steps ahead of me! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how it's a local usage issue? Why should the category tree of Category:Finance ministers by country not be consistent? AusLondonder (talk) 05:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose all word order changes for the political office, or changes from "Ministers for [dept]" to "Ministers of [dept]", unless demonstrated to be local usage. Especially opposing "Ministers of Finance" to "Finance ministers" – I recently renamed these according to local usage; where there is no article for the position in the country, I followed the majority usage in the biography articles. They do not have to follow the wording "Finance ministers" from the parent Category:Finance ministers by country. Note: I am not opposing decapitalisation, nor moving to "of [Country]", which can go ahead speedily. – Fayenatic London 20:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Abdel Kechiche to Category:Films directed by Abdellatif Kechiche – C2D: Abdellatif Kechiche. Οἶδα (talk) 20:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Communist Party secretaries of Rehe Province to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Rehe Province – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Secretaries of the Communist Party Shanghai Committee to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Shanghai – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party Committee Secretaries of Taiyuan to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Taiyuan – C2A: Consistent with similar sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Communist Party secretaries of Xi'an to Category:CCP committee secretaries of Xi'an – C2A: consistent naming with sub-categories in this category Amigao (talk) 02:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tatar music to Category:Music of Tatarstan – C2D: Music of Tatarstan. NLeeuw (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- This one contains a lot of entries unrelated to Tatarstan. Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should split it in two?
- Category:Music of Tatarstan > Music by country tree
- Category:Tatar music > Music by ethnicity tree
- We don't need to move to full in order to do that; I could withdraw this nom and create the first one myself out of the second. NLeeuw (talk) 22:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should split it in two?
- This one contains a lot of entries unrelated to Tatarstan. Ymblanter (talk) 20:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American female winemakers to Category:American women winemakers – Reason C2C: per siblings in Category:American women by occupation. TSventon (talk) 20:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Female versus women is not clear cut, especially not under C2C. Mason (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There is no consensus on "women" versus "female" as an adjective, and existing cats should generally not be renamed. NLeeuw (talk) 06:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- NLeeuw, for future reference, do you have a source for what you said? TSventon (talk) 22:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I do. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 27#Women/Men or Female/Male as an adjective. See User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Emptying categories out of process#Admin manually moving categories without discussion for an April 2023 incident confirming the fact that there is no consensus on female versus women. In the archives you'll find countless other precedents which confirmed the fact that we do not agree on which adjective is better, and to change it one way or another. NLeeuw (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. Female versus women is not clear cut, especially not under C2C. Mason (talk) 00:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- None currently
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Sikh military to Category:Military of the Sikh Empire – C2C: Parents Category:Sikh Empire and Category:Military by former country. Siblings in Category:Military by former country. NLeeuw (talk) 17:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: this requires more discussion because there is lots of content in the category that pre-dates the Sikh Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle You're probably right. Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 19#Category:Sikh military. NLeeuw (talk) 14:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw: this requires more discussion because there is lots of content in the category that pre-dates the Sikh Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neo-Latin writers to Category:Writers in Neo-Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not very natural language. It is inconsistent with the same level categories "Classical Latin-language writers", "Latin-language writers of late antiquity", "Medieval Latin-language writers", "Old Latin-language writers", and "Renaissance Latin-language writers".
- This is because "Neo-Latin" etc are actually styles, that are associated with a period. Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Latin-language writers of late antiquity to Category:Writers of late antiquity in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:57, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Classical Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Classical Latin – C2C: Parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Very clumsy sounding Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Old Latin-language writers to Category:Writers in Old Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds clumsy. Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Renaissance Latin-language writers to Category:Renaissance writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Sounds weird per others Jim Killock (talk) 05:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Latin-language writers to Category:Medieval writers in Latin – C2C: Per all child cats and per parent Category:Writers in Latin by period. NLeeuw (talk) 00:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same Jim Killock (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Same. These sound weird. Jim Killock (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- But these are not "by period"; they are "by style". This especially true for Neo-Latin. The periods and styles often coincide, but not precisely. Better would be to follow the styles defined in the articles, so:
- Old Latin writers
- Classical Latin writers
- Medieval Latin writers
- Renaissance Latin writers
- Neo-Latin Latin writers
- I've explained elsewhere that the periods and styles are not precise. For instance, a writer in the Renaissance may have employed Medieval Latin, or Renaissance Latin; and some may define their Renaissance Latin as Neo-Latin. These are stylistic boundaries which roughly match period, but it is the style, not the period, that determines their classifications. Jim Killock (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The issue is that the whole category structure is used to amalgamate and conflate these two ideas. I don't have an easy solution to it, that doesn't involve some work. It's reasonable to say that a C12th Medieval Latin writer used Medieval Latin, or a C20th writer uses Neo-Latin. Boundary centuries seem debateable. However, the structure makes an absolute assumption, that century and style are the same, except where I started to break it up. This has come up in two recent discussions, the other being when someone wanted to remove my boundary category. But it's clear that the intention was that Category:Classical Latin-language writers should contain Classical Latin writers, ie be a style category, not a time category. Likewise, Late Latin and Neo-Latin. There can be doubt about medieval Latin because of it seems to refer to a period rather than a style; however as it is a set of style categories we should assume it is about style, likewise for Renaissance Latin. The fact that the categories group information from centuries is a laziness, nothing more. In short it is a mess but it is only made worse by changing the names to appear to refer to time periods, some of which don't really exist (Classical Latin isn't a time, nor is Latin Latin, nor is Neo-Latin).
- Category:Writers in Classical Latin; Category:Writers in Neo-Latin - these all refer to a style; they are acceptable from that perspective, but they sounds strange / clumsy to my ear; the natural way to say is Category:Classical Latin writers, Category:Neo-Latin writers, or as close to that as WP allows.
- Taking one example to show why the suggested formulation can sound wrong. Category:Writers in Old Latin; Old Latin is recognised as a phase of Latin, rather than a "style" of Latin, so a bit different, but it functions the same. It is like Old English, not quite the same as Modern English. So, "writers in Old Latin" doesn't work because You [verb] in [language]; you don't [person] in [language]. It is either People writing in Old Latin or Old Latin writers. So Category:Old Latin writers sounds better, another option would be Category:Writers using Old Latin.
- Category:Renaissance writers in Latin; Category:Medieval writers in Latin - refer to a time period and remove the style names. These would need to be Category:Writers in Renaissance Latin; Category:Writers in Medieval Latin. This is not great English, most natural would be Category:Medieval Latin writers, Category: Renaissance Latin writers
- So there seems to be some inconsistency of approach in the current suggestion, as well as a somewhat clumsy use of "in" that isn't needed.
- It has taken me some time to pinpoint the issue with "in"; but I think it is because language can be either a noun or an adjective. When it is a style, describing how someone writes, "Classical Latin" etc, is an adjective. If "Classical Latin" is an adjective, then "in" shouldn't be used. If "Classical Latin" is a noun, as with "Classical Latin" the topic then "in" is possible, eg "Grammar in Classical Latin", or "They write in Classical Latin". As an adjective, it works as "Classical Latin writers". --Jim Killock (talk) 00:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 15#Category:Neo-Latin writers. NLeeuw (talk) 17:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose this will have to be moved to full then... NLeeuw (talk) 13:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @JimKillock I know. Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers were a thing; it's good that you created that category. But I don't see how it would create a problem if we renamed it Category:14th-century writers in Neo-Latin. If anything, it is even clearer that "14th-century" refers to "writers" and not to "Neo-Latin", so that we shouldn't assume that the kind of Latin they wrote was Medieval Latin. This is all the more reason in favour of renaming, so that our readers understand the difference between style and period. NLeeuw (talk) 14:03, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- But these are not "by period"; they are "by style". This especially true for Neo-Latin. The periods and styles often coincide, but not precisely. Better would be to follow the styles defined in the articles, so:
- @JimKillock The parent Category:Writers in Latin by period and grandparent Category:Writers in Latin and other related categories were all renamed by consensus last year: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 7#Category:Latin-language writers. These are just logical follow-ups to that result. The reason we went for this formula is explained at length in that nom. NLeeuw (talk) 15:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tamil language encyclopedias to Category:Tamil-language encyclopedias – C2A: MOS:HYPHEN –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Tamil per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Tamil per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Bengali encyclopedias to Category:Bengali-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Bengali-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Bengali per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Bengali per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Albanian encyclopedias to Category:Albanian-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Belarusian-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Albanian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Albanian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- Category:Belarusian encyclopedias to Category:Belarusian-language encyclopedias – C2C: Category:Belarusian-language literature, etc. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Belarusian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
Encyclopedias in Fooian
. I already proposed Category:Encyclopedias in Dutch. I recommend we follow the recent renaming of Category:Texts by language, Category:Songs by language, and others to this sameThings in Fooian
naming convention for clarity and consistency. NLeeuw (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- No objection, but prefer Category:Encyclopedias in Belarusian per the c:Category:Encyclopedias by language naming scheme of
- @LaundryPizza03 and Nederlandse Leeuw: either you have to agree on something, or this should be moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- There are several similar CfD's that are ongoing, such as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias, so I'd go to full. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Going full is fine with me. I hope we end up with a naming convention that is consistently applied. LP's speedy proposals are an improvement, and a fine intermediate step, but if we could skip that step and rename them all to
Encyclopedias in Fooian
in one go, well, all the better. :) NLeeuw (talk) 07:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC)- @LaundryPizza03 Is it okay if I add these 4 proposals of yours to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias in order to centralise the discussion? I'll have
Encyclopedias in Fooian
(my proposal) as Option 1 andFooian-language encyclopedias
(your proposal) as Option 2. NLeeuw (talk) 07:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)- PS: I recommend we keep the discussion about splitting Bulgarian encyclopedias separate. (I agree with your proposal to split them; we could always change the 2nd target's name based on the outcome of the Dutch &c. encyclopedias discussion). NLeeuw (talk) 07:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 1#Category:Dutch encyclopedias. I'll update the LP's 4 nominees' tags as well, with LP's proposed name and linking to my expanded nom. NLeeuw (talk) 16:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03 Is it okay if I add these 4 proposals of yours to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias in order to centralise the discussion? I'll have
- Going full is fine with me. I hope we end up with a naming convention that is consistently applied. LP's speedy proposals are an improvement, and a fine intermediate step, but if we could skip that step and rename them all to
- There are several similar CfD's that are ongoing, such as Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_1#Category:Dutch_encyclopedias, so I'd go to full. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03 and Nederlandse Leeuw: either you have to agree on something, or this should be moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scholars of Mycenaean Greek to Category:Linguists of Mycenaean Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Medieval Greek to Category:Linguists of Medieval Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Koine Greek to Category:Linguists of Koine Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Ancient Greek to Category:Linguists of Ancient Greek – C2C: Uncles/aunts in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC) - Category:Scholars of Greek language to Category:Linguists of Greek – C2C: Siblings in Category:Linguists by language of study are all named
Linguists of Fooian
. NLeeuw (talk) 20:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)- Comment Nederlandse Leeuw, I don't think the categories for Scholars of Greek are suitable for speedy renaming as the categories contain a mixture of scholars of Greek language and literature. Also Latin is the other classical language and there is no Category:Linguists of Latin. TSventon (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I discussed thus with @Fayenatic london in another thread (about Category:Grammarians of Persian), he thought it was a good idea. It's virtually impossible to study the literature of a language without also studying the language itself. (I've been studying Old East Slavic as an amateur lately, because I want to write about Rus' chronicles on Wikipedia). Also, Category:Latinists exists; it currently serves the same function as a Category:Linguists of Latin would. NLeeuw (talk) 02:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nederlandse Leeuw, I have looked at the content of the categories and am suggesting that these categories are not suitable for speedy renaming. I am happy for the CfD admins to accept or reject my argument. Studying the literature of a language generally involves studying the language itself, but some academics focus more on literature and others on liguistic topics and this is reflected in our categories. Category:Latinists exists and has a Greek counterpart, Category:Hellenists. TSventon (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm not convinced this makes them unsuitable for speedy renaming, but we'll see. Otherwise I'm happy to move to full, although I think it's unnecessary. NLeeuw (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think this kind of discussion is better held at a full CfD than here. Ymblanter (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 5#Category:Scholars of Greek language. NLeeuw (talk) 10:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think this kind of discussion is better held at a full CfD than here. Ymblanter (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm not convinced this makes them unsuitable for speedy renaming, but we'll see. Otherwise I'm happy to move to full, although I think it's unnecessary. NLeeuw (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nederlandse Leeuw, I have looked at the content of the categories and am suggesting that these categories are not suitable for speedy renaming. I am happy for the CfD admins to accept or reject my argument. Studying the literature of a language generally involves studying the language itself, but some academics focus more on literature and others on liguistic topics and this is reflected in our categories. Category:Latinists exists and has a Greek counterpart, Category:Hellenists. TSventon (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @TSventon I discussed thus with @Fayenatic london in another thread (about Category:Grammarians of Persian), he thought it was a good idea. It's virtually impossible to study the literature of a language without also studying the language itself. (I've been studying Old East Slavic as an amateur lately, because I want to write about Rus' chronicles on Wikipedia). Also, Category:Latinists exists; it currently serves the same function as a Category:Linguists of Latin would. NLeeuw (talk) 02:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Nederlandse Leeuw, I don't think the categories for Scholars of Greek are suitable for speedy renaming as the categories contain a mixture of scholars of Greek language and literature. Also Latin is the other classical language and there is no Category:Linguists of Latin. TSventon (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
PLEASE NOTE: I have moved all of the following Categories here pending adequate confirmation of their eligibility under C2C. I made a serious effort to look for that, but was unable to find such confirmation. There is a massive jumbled welter of Categories in this realm, with no prevailing pattern that I can discern. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century Canadian people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian people by century and descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century American people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by century and decent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Anomalous+0, I have linked Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent down below; is that not enough? 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:02, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:American rappers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American rappers by descent – C2C: See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent for all the ones below. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States Congress by ethnic or national origin to Category:Members of the United States Congress by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Canadian people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:Canadian people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:Romanian people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:American people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American classical musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American classical musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American male actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American male actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American singers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American singers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Malaysian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Malaysian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:French politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Dutch politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transnistrian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Transnistrian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:East German people by ethnic or national origin to Category:East German people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Moldovan politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Moldovan politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Swedish politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Swedish politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American photographers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American photographers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Martiniquais people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Martiniquais people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Overseas France by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guadeloupean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guadeloupean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Aruban people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Aruban people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Caribbean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caribbean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Anguillan people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Anguillan people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:British writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:British writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Welsh people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Welsh people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Scottish people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Northern Ireland by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Northern Ireland by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American professional wrestlers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American professional wrestlers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American physicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American physicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American models by ethnic or national origin to Category:American models by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American military personnel by ethnic or national origin to Category:American military personnel by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American lawyers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American lawyers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American journalists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American journalists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American film directors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American film directors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American educators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American educators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American comedians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American comedians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American aviators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American aviators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American artists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American artists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American architects by ethnic or national origin to Category:American architects by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American activists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American activists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by occupation and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by occupation and descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:American people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English people by ethnic or national origin to Category:English people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now to all by ethnic or national origin nominations. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 08:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- The existing wording sounds more natural and is easier to understand. 46.229.243.187 (talk) 14:34, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- A first attempt to resolve this is here at full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_30#Category:English_people_by_ethnic_or_national_origin and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_9#Category:Swedish_politicians_by_ethnic_or_national_origin. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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