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July 27

User-provided translations of foreign terms

One of the current WP:DYK items caught my eye:

"Most Hyped Boxer" sounded like a very strange name for an award. In fact, the citation in the article is in Turkish, and "Most Hyped Boxer" is presumably tr-n / en-3 User:CeeGee's own translation of the Turkish term en dövüşken sporcu. Now of course these sorts of user-translated glosses appear frequently in Wikipedia, so that's presumably not a problem in and of itself. But, while I don't speak Turkish and thus can't comment on the accuracy, no one else seems to have translated it that way and to my ear (no offense intended!) it just doesn't sound like a tonally-appropriate English translation for an official award name.

So my question is - are there any guidelines on this? Are there any situations where a Wikipedian-provided translation ISN'T appropriate (I could imagine this being the sort of area where the Main Page might have a higher standard)? If you do come across one of these translations and think it seems "off," but can't actually confirm that or improve it yourself because you don't speak the relevant language, where and how would be good to bring it up? Thanks. -Elmer Clark (talk) 00:36, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Elmer Clark: perhaps ask the right folks over at Wikipedia:Translators available. -Arch dude (talk) 01:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Korean names

Hello! Could someone tell me what the title should be for a draft on Seung Woo Back? And perhaps how to mention the family name in the article? The artist's web site also gives Seung Woo, Baek as his name. American museums say "Seung Woo Back": 1 and 2. Thank you. --- Possibly 02:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Possibly: I'd go with WP:COMMONNAME, depending on what the majority of English reliable sources refer to him as. I personally prefer Baek Seung Woo, and if you want to go this route, {{family name hatnote}} can help you there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬  📝 ) 03:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@Tenryuu: thank you kindly. Do you think I got it right? --- Possibly 03:39, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Looks fine to me. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬  📝 ) 03:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! --- Possibly 04:00, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

How to upload a non free file

I want to add the club logo to Delhi FC but I am not able to upload the logo in </ref><ref> under upload a non free file. Can you guide me thanks Bharat0078 (talk)Bharat0078

@Bharat0078: Hi there! What happens when you try to upload the logo using the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard? GoingBatty (talk) 03:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

It just refresh the same page nothing else happens. :@GoingBatty:Bharat0078 (talk)

@Bharat0078: Another alternative is to try Wikipedia:Files for upload instead. GoingBatty (talk) 03:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate articles

Two articles were created today on the same subject: Isadora Rodrigues Pacheco and Isidora Pacheco. The common name in sources is the latter, but the former was created first. How do we tackle this? JTtheOG (talk) 04:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Actually, according to the one and only source in the article, her surname is Rodrigues Pacheco, not Pacheco. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

IP user quickly reverts bots

I found [a peculiar IP user] who has in several instances, albeit spaced out by several months, reverted a few bot edits adding Internet Archive links. I [reverted one] on an article I have edited in the past and that needed Archive links (the new ones just redirect to a homepage). This IP hasn't been warned before, so I don't know that it's ready to be reported to WP:AIV yet, but if the IP is making changes to bots this fast I don't know if warnings are needed, or how to word a warning if so. How should I proceed? Thank you! Tonystewart14 (talk) 04:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The user is making matters worse for us by not using any edit summaries. I've reverted their last such edit and left a message on their Talk page. If it happens again and you are unable to discern any benefit from the edit, feel free to leave {{subst:uw-disruptive1}}.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:49, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Robert Lacey

 Courtesy link: Robert Lacey

Ref number 2 is all wrong and I cannot repair it on my device. Please help sorry - (talk) 04:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit so that you can do it correctly next time. The link when you wish to undo an edit is the "Undo" link. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I want to display language selector on the personal toolbar like Commons and Meta

Language Selector on Wikimedia Commons

Hello. I've seen a language selector on the left-hand side of my personal toolbar on Commons and Meta. So I want to display it in the same position, in the same function, and in the same view as these two wikis. But I couldn't find the code that makes it display(maybe the code is JavaScript code...?). Could you tell me about it? I used a machine translation so perhaps I didn't communicate it well, but please don't hesitate to ask me back if that's the case. Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 06:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

It wouldn't work for much besides Meta and Commons, as all other projects have their languages separate from each other. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 06:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@Jéské Couriano: (Thank you for your reply.) This selector changes the language of the project's UI. You can change the language from English to any other languages at Special:Preferences > Internationalisation. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@TKsdik8900: Commons and Meta have multiple languages in the same wiki, meaning both user interface and some of the content by editors is translated. Compare for example and I don't know whether there is a way to get a language selector on every page in a single-language wiki like the English Wikipedia where it would only affect the user interface. Manually adding ?uselang= or &uselang= to the url is easier than changing preferences if you only want to see the current page with another interface language and you know the language code. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
You may be interested in User:PrimeHunter/English interface.js. You could also make your own version with multiple selected languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


This article is frequently vandalized by IP editors and is now disrupted to infobox. Can you fix it? Regards The Supermind (talk) 09:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Supermind, I restored the last version beforing the IP edits. SirEd Dimmi!!! 09:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Monegasque / Monégasque

There are some article titles with the spelling "Monégasque" (here) and some with the spelling "Monegasque" (without the diacritic) (here). All categories use the latter spelling (here). Both spellings are in general use, but the article on the Monégasque language consistently uses the diacritic. In such a case, is it desirable to make the spelling consistent across titles by moving pages, or would that cause more harm than good? I couldn't find any guidance on this at MOS:SPELLING because it deals only with national varieties of English, which isn't what this is. Joriki (talk) 09:49, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Joriki: - I'm in favour of using diacritics. We have the technology nowadays so we should use it. I don't see how correcting Monegasque to Monégasque can be seen as unconstructive as long as its in the body of an article and not in a direct quote or reference. Might be worth posting at the talk page of the relevant WikiProject (WP:MICROSTATE) to see what the feeling is about moving articles from a non-diacritic title to one with a diacritic. Mjroots (talk) 12:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@Joriki: I would recommend a discussion as there are a lot of articles and categories and suggest WP:EUROPE as the WP:MICROSTATE talk page seems to be in active. Whichever is preferred, you could ask at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion if it is possible to tag the categories using WP:AWB. TSventon (talk) 12:58, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@Mjroots: @TSventon: Thanks for your replies. I've posted at WP:EUROPE. Joriki (talk) 06:16, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Joriki:, a minor detail: you haven't searched for Monegasque / Monégasque when they are not at the beginning of the category name, e.g. subcategories of Category:Monégasque sport by decade and Category:Monégasque sport by year. TSventon (talk) 06:40, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

A question about reliable sources

Hello! I have a question about the article I would be very grateful if you could help me. The article was sent back for revision due to inappropriate links. Quote: "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article-that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject."

I have read a lot of information, but please help me understand: 1) How can I tell if the site I'm referring to is appropriate? There are paid services to check the rating of sites - will this check be reliable in this case? Or is there some other way to tell if I can link to a certain site? 2) A question about the definition of "reliable source". It says here ( states that this can be the material itself (an article or a book). But how exactly do I know that it is reliable?

Please help me to understand how to do everything according to the rules. I will be very grateful for your help. Have a nice day.  Preceding unsigned comment added by SvetlanaManuilova (talkcontribs) 13:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@SvetlanaManuilova: It appears you have found a draft article on a Wikipedia mirror site, which duplicates the content of the English Wikipedia with advertising. You can choose to view the English Wikipedia there or here. I don't know what "paid services" you are referring to. Reliable sources have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy - see Wikipedia:Reliable sources for more information. GoingBatty (talk) 13:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
GoingBatty, it sounds like the user paid WikiCurators and BettytheBeth to create an article for them. Bkissin (talk) 13:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)


Good day, I have an account with wikipedia and would love to have my autobiography on wikipedia. What are the steps involved and how long would it take? Preceding unsigned comment added by Fajembola (talkcontribs)

Not a good idea. Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. -Arch dude (talk) 14:45, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Fajembola Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves. A Wikipedia article about you would need to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about you, showing how you meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. Most people have great difficulty with doing that about themselves. It is strongly discouraged, though not forbidden. If you just want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media or a personal website. 331dot (talk) 15:02, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
I will add that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
@Fajembola: Learning how to use Wikipedia, gathering reliable sources, writing a draft, and having your draft rejected multiple times before it gets approved can take many many months. The steps are at Help:Your first article. GoingBatty (talk) 19:06, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Creating a new Wikipedia article is the hardest thing one can possibly do on Wikipedia. Having a connexion to the subject amplifies that difficulty. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Changing category names

Hi there, I recently created the category "African American equestrians." However, I know realize it should be "African-American equestrians," with a hyphen. How do I change that? I don't see a "move" option. Thanks!

EponineBunnyKickQueen (talk) 19:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi EponineBunnyKickQueen. According to WP:MOVE, more specifically the "How to move a category" section, only editors with a special permission are allowed to move categories. It is recommended you use the Speedy Renaming policy to have the category "renamed" (this category falls under the C2C criteria). Isabelle 🔔 19:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Isabelle Belato! EponineBunnyKickQueen (talk) 20:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Problem with Printing or downloading an artical

I have the problem on how to download or print any artical with My androidDaudi Masanja (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Use the desktop version; the mobile version does not have anywhere near full functionality and this has been known for a while. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hello, I was editing a page yesterday for LJ Klink, trying to return to the page today it was deleted. How can we get this back? What do we need to do? Hoping we didn't lose all of the content.

Thank you, Kellisa Kulm Kellisakulm (talk) 22:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

What is your connexion to LJ Klink? —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Why do you say "we", Kellisakulm? (How many of you are there?) Incidentally, a quotation from the deleted article: He grew up with cooking in his veins from learning fractions with his Grandma Klink, to spending hours in the dish tank at the family restaurant Klink's on the Lake. -- Hoary (talk) 08:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
To expand a bit on what Hoary said, Kelisakulm, a Wikipedia article (not just a "page" should be a neutral summary of what sources unconnected with the subject have published about them. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. THe sentence Hoary quoted doesn't belong in any encyclopaedia. Please read WP:42, WP:NBIO and, if you think that Klink meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, WP:YFA. As Jéské Couriano says, if you have any connection with Klink you need to read about WP:COI and make an appropriate declaration. --ColinFine (talk) 10:34, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

kaffir lime

Please see the link above for an article on the use of the word 'kaffir' which to certain groups is a racial slur. Please see the Wikipedia page titled 'kaffir limes'. This editor added a link on the 'kaffir lime' page to the above article and one sentence stating that the word was a racial slur. It was promptly removed with the reason that the page was a "botanical page". For future reference, which racial slurs are allowed on botanical pages and which are not? Thanks in advance. Preceding unsigned comment added by Quantumkinetics (talkcontribs) 22:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Quantumkinetics. I've checked the article's history and the editor who reverted you left the following message: "I think this is excessive for the lead, this is a botanical article and there is a section that discusses the controversial name." Currently the page already has a subsection "Name" (not to be confused with the section "Names"!) that gives a short explanation of kaffir as a slur, as well as wikilinking it to a page with even more content. If you still think that the article's lede should contain some information about that, I recommend using the talk page or contacting the person who reverted you directly. Isabelle 🔔 00:13, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

July 28

Temple Moor High School

Please help - ref number 5 should have the newspaper publisher - I got it wrong - please fix. Thanks (talk) 00:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Added the |publisher= parameter. GoingBatty (talk) 00:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Making page public

I have a wiki page by name Harini Srivatsa. the page is private i would like to make it public. I am not aware of how to do it. i dont remember the email id i used to register this account. Please help me --Harinisrivatsa (talk) 02:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Harinisrivatsa: Are you referring to your user page? It looks like it was edited in October of 2020.
Your user page is already public. If you meant you wanted to make it an article in the mainspace, that would be a different story, and likely not possible as the text currently stands.
I see that you've also created the page K. Srivatsa Chakravarthy in 2015.
––FormalDudetalk (please notify me <nowiki>{{U|FormalDude}}</nowiki> on reply) 03:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
If submitted for review that page would be summarily declined due to its utterly abysmal sourcing and its nonstandard formatting. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 03:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Yes, in fact we have now deleted the page due to the user page being an unambiguous promotion/advertisement. ––FormalDudetalk (please notify me <nowiki>{{U|FormalDude}}</nowiki> on reply) 05:09, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Redirection of Burmese junta

Since the Burmese coup in 2021, the State Administration Council is established as the country's new military junta. So how should the redirect page of "Burmese junta" to be dealt, which originally redirects to State Peace and Development Council? Many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 07:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Have there been more than two? If so, I'd create a List of Burmese juntas and redirect there. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:13, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@廣九直通車: Another possible redirect target is Military rule in Myanmar. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:28, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@廣九直通車: I'm going to stage a coup and redirect it there. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

How to change the usernane

I would like to change my user name to:luccathron787 Is that possible? With best regards luccathron787 Preceding unsigned comment added by Luccathron787 (talkcontribs) 12:50, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Please see Wikipedia:Changing username for details on the process. Cheers ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 13:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Hi Luccathron787. You appear to already have the name you desire. Still, if you want to change your name, head over to Changing username page and follow the instructions there. Isabelle 🔔 13:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Isabelle is certainly correct! ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 13:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
If your question is whether your username can start with a lower case l, the answer is no- for technical reasons, they have to start with upper case letters. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
That'd make sense. I guess they could always change their name to Iuccathron787. Isabelle 🔔 13:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Isabelle Belato, I don't believe that's the case. I think there's a way to make it display with a lowercase letter, and that may achieve their goal, but I don't believe it's acceptable to have a username start with a lowercase letter. S Philbrick(Talk) 18:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

List of youngest birth mothers

In the page, the first words are: “This is a list of youngest birth mothers aged less than 11 years at time of birth (not at time of conception).”

The Italian girl Maria Tizziano become mother at 11 years old. It is eligible for the page? -- (talk) 13:39, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

11 is not less than 11, so on the face of it, no. Furthermore, we do not have an article on Maria Tizziano, and you have not given a source: preferably, entries in list articles should already be the subject of independent articles; but if they are not, there should be sufficient sources cited to establish that they are notable. --ColinFine (talk) 17:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Which Wikiprojects might be interested in writing about international treaties?

Hi all

After doing some research for some UN related articles I've discovered some treaties which do not have Wikipedia articles. Does anyone have any suggestions of Wikiprojects who might be interested in writing about any of them? I can only think of Wikiproject Law so far:

  1. Nairobi Treaty on the Protection of the Olympic Symbol
  2. Brussels Convention Relating to the Distribution of Programme-Carrying Signals Transmitted by Satellite
  3. Madrid Agreement Concerning the International Registration of Marks
  4. Trademark Law Treaty
  5. Washington Treaty on Intellectual Property in Respect of Integrated Circuits
  6. Madrid Agreement Concerning the International Registration of Marks
  7. Protocol Relating to the Madrid Agreement Concerning the International Registration of Marks
  8. Locarno Agreement Establishing an International Classification for Industrial Designs
  9. Vienna Agreement Establishing an International Classification of the Figurative Elements of Marks

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 14:43, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

See Wikiproject United Nations and Wikiproject International Relations. Zoozaz1 talk 15:16, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@John Cummings Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics perhaps. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@John Cummings: Most of these seem to be about "intellectual property", so the folks at that are interested in copyright (projects listed at Talk:Copyright) might be interested in these. You can also look at projects interested in trademark. -Arch dude (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Great suggestions all, thanks very much for your help. John Cummings (talk) 15:52, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Module:Location map

I created this Module:Location map/data/India Kolkata Metro, but when I am using it in the articles, the map points are coming incorrect.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  15:23, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Pro Wordsmiths -- Scam??

Hello Wiki Team --

Our small company has been working with a company called Pro Wordsmiths that promises to create and submit a Wikipedia page for our brand. It was a couple of thousand dollars and it has now been over a year with very little communication from them. Has anyone else had this experience or have further information?

They told us we can check Wikipedia to prove that our page has been submitted to be approved or denied. Can anyone let me know how to do this? Preceding unsigned comment added by BobWilliams1979 (talkcontribs)

I don't know anything about the specific company, but please be aware that Wikipedia does not endorse any organizations promising to create articles for pay, and our experience is that a significant proportion of them are scams. Not a single one can guarantee been an article will be accepted, even if it is, there is no guarantee that it won't be materially rewritten or proposed for deletion.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
What is the name of your company? ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 18:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
BobWilliams1979, what my colleagues above say is correct - it is very possible that you have been dealing with a person or company who has done nothing here at all on your behalf, or who has been editing in violation of our policies on editing for pay; their efforts may very well have been deleted a very short time after they made them. If you would be willing to reveal the name of your company, we can investigate. Girth Summit (blether) 18:56, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
This company does advertise Wikipedia services on their website []. I checked the COI noticeboard and there's no record of them. I can't recall if I've ever seen any disclosures from anyone claiming to be from them, so they may very likely be doing UPE. I looked them up on LinkedIn and there are no people associated with their company page, and the address and phone number there doesn't match the one on their web site. Many flags. @BobWilliams1979: Sorry you were scammed by them. You can report them on Trustpilot to protect others in the future. Also, if you don't tell us your company name, we're limited in how much we can advise you about your chances for having an article approved, and more importantly, we won't be able to block this scammer in the future. Nonetheless, if you enter your company name in the "Search Wikipedia" box above and then click on the red link that appears at the top of the search results, you can see the deletion history (if indeed they ever actually did create an article for you). If it's blank, they did nothing. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Bro! You were scammed. Think about it. You paid a company for a Wikipedia article then they ghosted you. That’s the first flag. The second is that with basic research you would have figured out that the best way to get an article on here is naturally based on being notable and numerous sources based on your business history.

Having a Wikipedia article doesn’t always work in your favour either. If something negative happened with your business and it’s notable it will be added to the article as well which could have negative effects.

I wish you the best. (talk) 22:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Image help

Hi my fellow editors :D...

So last night, I uploaded a new cropped version of the 2012 image of Bakir Izetbegović from this to this. Now, it seems that it's a bit broken haha. When I, for example, open that newly cropped image on the 2014 Bosnian general election article, it looks completely normal, but when I go to his own article, it goes back to the old image, the first one, plus the old image looks elongated and not in "HD" quality. But when I click on that "old" image to open it fully, it goes back to my new, normal looking, cropped version of it. However, when I'm on my mobile phone, the new cropped version of the image looks comepletely normal no matter what article I go on. You can even look in the image's File history on Commons that I had changed it a lot because of this problem. Can somebody please look a bit into this? Bakir123 (talk) 19:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bakir123: It looks normal to me, using Firefox. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:30, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@Bakir123 Try this: Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:34, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@TimTempleton (talk) and @Gråbergs Gråa Sång It's weird because when I go on Chrome, it looks weird, but when I go on Microsoft Edge's search, it's completely normal. I'll try the bypass Gråbergs. Bakir123 (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Edit: It worked! Thanks! Bakir123 (talk) 19:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Organization of the 'What links here' page

How is the Special:WhatLinksHere page organized? It doesn't seem to be purely alphabetical. Why are some pages near the top and others near the bottom? For example, why is Geyser at the top of Special:WhatLinksHere\Waikato River? Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 20:01, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mr. Guye. According to the help page at MediaWiki, The "What Links Here" special page orders using the page IDs, meaning it's going by creation date of the pages. Isabelle 🔔 20:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
@Mr. Guye: They're sorted by page ID, which is a sequential number assigned to the page when they are created. Why does the start of the list appear to be alphabetical? I think it's because when the project swapped from UseModWiki to the original version of mediawiki User:Conversion script imported the articles in roughly alphabetical order. (talk) 20:20, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

How should I structure a nested cite?

I am developing an article that makes multiple references to a number of books. I have therefore listed the books at the end of the article thus (Source B):

* {{cite book |last1=Griffiths |first1=Denis |title=Locomotive engineers of the GWR |date=1987 |publisher=Stephens |location=Wellingborough |isbn=0-85059-819-2}}

and use {{sfn}} to refer to various pages as required. On one page is a quote from a journal to which I do not have access. Since it is a good book, it has a reference to the original article (though without the title) from which I can construct a reference (Source A):

* {{cite journal |ref={{sfnref|GWRMagazine|1935}} |title=Unknown article |journal=GWR Magazine |date=1935 |volume=47 |pages=206-207}}

However, since I have not seen the journal, the advice in Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Say where you read it is to state 'Source A cited in Source B'. If I try to do this in my reference section, I get a duplicate error for Source B, as it also exists as a source on its own. If I say 'Source A cited in {{sfn|Griffiths||p=107}}', I get a little number for Source B, and a new set of references at the bottom of the article (under the categories and everything).

How should I structure this nested cite?--Verbarson (talk) 22:22, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

@Verbarson: - You don't need to quote your sources' sources. Just quote the book you are using in the usual way. Mjroots (talk) 04:34, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Verbarson:, not sure if User:Mjroots is necessarily correct. He's not wrong either, I don't believe there is a rule written down, so do what you think best. For my part, I figure that if the reader wants to verify that the material is correct, she might well want to go to directly to the source of the material, for any of a number of reasons. I personally just combine the two sources with "cited at", like this (bolded here just for ease of finding):
* {{cite journal |ref={{sfnref|GWRMagazine|1935}} |title=Unknown article |journal=GWR Magazine |date=1935 |volume=47 |pages=206-207}} cited at {{cite book |last1=Griffiths |first1=Denis |title=Locomotive engineers of the GWR |date=1987 |publisher=Stephens |location=Wellingborough |isbn=0-85059-819-2}}

Again, that's my personal style only. Herostratus (talk) 05:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@Herostratus: - I've corrected your comment. I'm male . Hope you don't mind. Mjroots (talk) 05:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Sutcliffe Jugend Band

Hi, Can you please inform us why the 45 year history and discog of our band is no longer on Wikipedia? We are big supporters of what you represent.

Kind regards Paul Taylor and Kevin Tomkins Formerly of Sutcliffe Jugend Known now as Sutcliffe No More. Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c4:3c80:e701:81e9:59aa:7476:d3c0 (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sutcliffe Jügend is why. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 23:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
That's correct. Granted, your article should most probably not have been deleted, as there are plenty of sources to make a decent article and it unquestionably meets the general notability guidelines (and people are supposed to check that before nomination and deleting articles, but often don't). However, the sources are obscure. There's nothing in the Guardian or whatever. This does matter some, different people feel differently about how much.
It depends somewhat on the luck of draw as to whether there's enough research and discussion and thoughtfullness in a deletion discussion, and you guys drew the short straw. There's nothing anybody can do about it now, sorry, as we're a fast moving busy website and we only review these decisions of there's a procedural error rather than just bad luck or difference of opinion. Herostratus (talk) 03:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
July 29

Bullock family

Ref numbers 13 and 14 are exactly the same - shouldn't they be arranged differently in the references section? I cannot do this. Thanks in advance (talk) 00:37, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I have combined them. You can see what I did here. DuncanHill (talk) 00:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

llghtchlld Spelling (help)


My name is Alex, and I am llghtchlld's assistant, and also the person who created the page for llghtchlld. (I hope I'm posting in the correct place for the help desk this time!)

I was wondering if it was possible to change the main title of llghtchlld's Wikipedia page to the correct spelling. (with the i's as l's) This spelling of the i's replaced with l's is not a stylization, it is the actual spelling of llghtchlld's name, and it is the way that her name is spelled throughout her online presence. The purpose of this was to be distinct from other artists with the name "Lightchild".

I know that Wikipedia has very strict policies when it comes to spelling and formatting, but please let me know if it is possible to make this spelling correction, and avoid confusion surrounding her name online.

Mnmh. I'm not sure that it isn't a stylization. "llghtchlld" looks like an affection to me, and isn't formed as English words (and names) are, and is thus


Alex  Preceding unsigned comment added by loveisthevision (talkcontribs) Loveisthevision (talk contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Hi User:Loveisthevision. No it's probably not possible, but you can try if you want, and you never know, I could be wrong. The procedure for this is to go to Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting a single page move (we call renaming a "move" here) and follow the instructions.
Pretty sure your request won't be accepted. I'm not sure that it isn't a stylization. "llghtchlld" looks like an affectation to me, and isn't formed as English words (and names) are, and is thus unpronounceable. Even Welsh words that start with a double-L have a vowel right after. If it's still pronounced "lightchild" them I'm pretty sure it's a stylization. It also starts with a lower-case letter which we don't do except in special cases, at least for article titles.
Yes for bell hooks and eBay etc we make exceptions. Because those entities are famous, thus their name appears in many sources, which mostly use their stylizations, thus the reader will expect that.
For less famous sources, not so much. IMDb does have "llgtchild" but Deadline has "Lightchild". Some people use a stylization that a fair amount of sources don't follow, so we don't either. This person appears to not have enough sources to even make a fair survey. That's my take. Others may disagree. Herostratus (talk) 05:46, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Article names should be the form of the subject's name that's most usual in English-language sources. The wishes of the subject are irrelevant. Of the four sources cited in the article, the first use both versions, the second uses neither, the third and fourth both use "Lightchild". So "Lightchild" is the appropriate name for the article. Maproom (talk) 07:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia page

Some time ago, I was offered the opportunity to get a Wikipedia page. May I be considered once again for that offer

Ali Namazie MD, FACS  Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Whoever offered you that "opportunity" is not endorsed in any way by Wikipedia. As far as I can see, you do not meet the WP:BIO requirements, and any article about you would be deleted. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Also, if you'll look about further up this page ("Pro Wordsmiths -- Scam??"), you'll see what happened to someone else who was given a similar "opportunity" ... to pay good money for nothing. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:05, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Also note that a Wikipedia article(not just a "page") is not necessarily desirable. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
You got scammed. Wikipedia does not "offer" any "opportunities" to anyone. Whoever made you that offer is either illegitimately taking advantage of Wikipedia, or just blatantly lying to you. If any article gets created, it will not belong to you and you will not have any control over it. Most likely the article will soon get deleted. Legitimate Wikipedia articles are written by independent Wikipedia editors on their own decision, without any input from their subjects. JIP | Talk 12:44, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Help with my project

I have been trying to make a wiki page regarding a game dev "Tanner Rozankovic" my submission was declined 2x then rejected permanently, for not being notable enough but recently Tanner Rozankovic has been back in the spotlight of the media and press, now making him worthy of a wiki page. Can I get my draft unrejected or do I need to make a new one?  Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshua Gooden (talkcontribs) Joshua Gooden (talk contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Frankly, the drafts you created were so bad that you've kind of poisoned the well on this one, trying to create an article too soon in his career. I'd suggest concentrating on other, more useful kinds of edits, then waiting until you've got some genuinely solid sources not coming from this guy or anybody associated with him before proposing that somebody else write an article. After all, there's no deadline here. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Charles W Taylor Jr of Rice University is a Member of the Senior Executive Service of the United States, as documented on June 25, 1990. Where can his certificate be sent for verification?

How do I get this posted under List of Rice people  Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles W Taylor Jr (talkcontribs) 14:16, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

The List of Rice University people is a list of notable people who have attended, you do not have an article about you so would not be considered notable. Theroadislong (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Charles W Taylor Jr: you may or may not be notable. The notability guidelines for academics are a fairly high bar: see WP:NACADEMIC. If you meet these guidelines, someone (preferably not you: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY) could write a Wikipedia article about you. If such an article existed, it could be added to that list. In the past, someone might have added you to the list if they felt that an article about you was warranted even if that article did not yet exist, but we have moved away from that practice.-Arch dude (talk) 15:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I have no personal interest in this topic, but I wonder if appointment to the Senior Executive Service (United States) is in itself sufficient to confer notability? If so, someone (not the subject, preferably, and not me) could create a valid article and wikilink it to the Rice list.
For the benefit of Charles W Taylor Jr, we should explain that we do not accept or require copies of Primary documents such as certificates to verify such matters; what we would require is a published, independent secondary reliable source (such as mention in a Government journal or similar) of the appointment. It's helpful if such sources are online, but not essential – so long as they can be consulted in, say, a good library, citation of their bibliographical details are sufficient.
Of course, any article would require other reliable sources in addition to this, since nearly all material in such an article needs to be cited to them. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 21:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
It is not clear that appointment to the senior executive service is sufficient to establish notability. It appears to be equivalent to the military rank of "general", which is not by itself enough to establish notability. I think we are forced to use WP:GNG here (i.e., find enough coverage in the general press). I personally find it irritating that it's harder to establish notability for academics than for professional athletes or Pokemon characters. -Arch dude (talk) 23:38, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


Is it possible to remove an article, that was created by me, but accidently wasn't since it was created by someone else. What happened is when I've added the tags unsourced and orphan to the article Warriors of Mahabharata, an editor nominated the article for speedy deletion and send the article was nominated for speedy deletion in my talk page in this message User talk:MoviesandTelevisionFan#Speedy deletion nomination of Warriors of ahabharata. What I saw in the article, it said it was created by me, when I've added the tags. It happened when I've added the tags and a editor moved the article to draft, at the same time , could be seen in this log. Then, a system flagged me that I recreated the article. But the article was originally created by "Hitwitsit. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 19:31, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure what it is you want done? If you are worried about the message on your talk page you can simply remove it, and maybe let the person who did create it know where it went. Anyone can see what happened from the page history. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I just like it, if it could be remove of like the list of articles i've created in like xtools, which shows. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
I really wouldn't worry about it, (and I do not know how to do what you've requested) it's not some big black mark on you, as i said anyone can see that you actually just moved it. (ok that's not quite what happened, but it still isn't a big deal) As you may have noticed, I did go ahead and delete though as WP:A10. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Ok then.MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 20:03, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Article Edit?

Dear Wikipedia, I am not good with computers/Internet. I’m at Wikipedia article NNS Thunder (F90) - Wikipedia. It’s the Wikipedia USCGC Chase page/article. (For clarity, the US Coast Guard Cutter Chase was transferred to the Nigerian Navy in 2011 as the “NNS Thunder” and that’s the name of the ship that comes up when you go to the USCGC Chase Wikipedia article.) I was a crewmember in the 1970s. On this Wikipedia page/article, in the ship’s “history” section for the 1970’s, there is an omission/discrepancy from the official US Coast Guard USCGC Chase history from which it seems most of the Wikipedia article is taken from.

The existing Wikipedia paragraph of concern is the 4th paragraph down from the heading that reads “Vietnam and the 1970s” which reads; “Between 1974 and 1978, Chase continued to patrol the waters of the Atlantic. Chase visited Spain, Morocco, Ireland, and France.”

But, on the official Coast Guard website ship’s history page, under the heading “Cutter History”…4th paragraph down), i.e. Chase, 1968 (WHEC 718) > United States Coast Guard > All (…… That equivalent US Coast Guard 4th paragraph reads:

In 1973, Chase also participated in Operation Seaconex, an exercise with a screen of seven destroyers and an amphibious assault ship, helicopter (LPH) carrying anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters and Harrier vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) jets protecting a convoy from air, subservice and surface threats. Between the years of 1974 to 1978, Chase continued to patrol Atlantic and Mediterranean waters. In 1976, while on a cadet cruise, Chase was ordered to join operation Fluid Drive and, along with the attack carrier America and landing ship dock Spiegel Grove, evacuated American nationals from the beach after the assassination of two U.S. officials in Beirut, Lebanon. In 1977 Chase was among the cutters assigned to protect a part of the U.S. exclusive economic zone (EEZ) created as a result of passage of the Magnuson-Stevens Fisheries Conservation and Management Act, protecting the area from Cape May, New Jersey to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina from foreign encroachment.' The above is the exact excerpt copied and pasted from the official US Coast Guard source: Chase, 1968 (WHEC 718) > United States Coast Guard > All (

So, an accurate Wikipedia edit of record in conjunction with the official C.G. Chase website page, read: Between the years of 1974 to 1978, Chase continued to patrol the waters of the Atlantic, Caribbean and Mediterranean. Chase visited Guantanamo Cuba, Spain, Morocco, Ireland, France, England and Italy. In 1976, while on a cadet cruise, Chase rendezvoused with and came under the command of the attack carrier USS America and was involved in Operation Fluid Drive during The Lebanon Crisis of 1976 which ultimately resulted in the evacuation of nationals from the beach after the assassination of two U.S. officials in Beirut, Lebanon by the landing ship dock Spiegel Grove In 1977 Chase was among the cutters assigned to protect a part of the U.S. exclusive economic zone (EEZ) created as a result of passage of the Magnuson-Stevens Fisheries Conservation and Management Act, protecting the area from Cape May, New Jersey to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina from foreign encroachment. Can you edit this?....and also the companion USCGC Chase Wikipedia article on the “Military’ page @ USCGC Chase (WHEC-718) | Military Wiki | Fandom ( ? Thank you.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Bknp1 (talkcontribs)

This help desk is more for general editing questions. When it comes to information about a specific article, your best bet is to post your question on the Talk:NNS Thunder (F90) page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Bknp1: Wikipedia has no affiliation with FANDOM wikis. You'd have to ask over there to request a change. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬  📝 ) 22:03, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Bknp1: Thank you very much for pointing out these discrepancies. We are all volunteers, and the help desk denizens may not be the best folks to correct the article. I suggest that you try to edit the article yourself. Yes, I know it's scary, but be bold (WP:BOLD). If you mess it up, the worst that can happen is that you will be reverted. You have just as much responsibility and authority for that article as the rest of us. Just do it! But if all else fails, put a message on my talk page and I will try to help. -Arch dude (talk) 23:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

July 30

Jimfbleak's Actions

I am concerned about unfair user actions on Wikipedia. The administrator's rights of user Jimfbleak is in question. This user deletes the pages with the descriptive content marked by someone else as promotional or those contested against deletion. Are there any remedies to revoke admin permissions from this user?  Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikizeda (talkcontribs)

No idea what's going on here, but perhaps Jimfbleak might be able to chime in. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬  📝 ) 02:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Wikizeda: we have not way to respond to non-specific accusations. Please identify specific problems or issues, with links. -Arch dude (talk) 02:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Arch dude: @Tenryuu: They're taking umbrage to the deletion of Unified Electronic Card as G11 by Jimfbleak. They're presently complaining in -en-help about it as well. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 02:09, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Wikizeda will have even more to complain about now since before coming here I'd blocked the account as an undeclared paid editor. The draft was an almost totally unsourced text dump, and the three sources it did have included ru-wiki and the company website. It was recreated without change and deleted by Explicit. In the circumstances, I'm happy for anyone with admin access to review the deletion and the block, and reverse either if they feel I've got it wrong. Also happy for this to go to ANI if that's appropriate Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:37, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Jimfbleak: I could give Wikizeda even more to complain about by salting the title. Mjroots (talk) 14:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Mjroots, good idea, but I thought I'd wait for a bit to see if there are any socks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Miss Grand and Nicole Cordoves

How do I connect these two pages and highlight the name Nicole Cordoves and Miss Grand (2016 runner-up)

I've added a wikilink from Miss Grand to Nicole Cordoves. The Cordoves article does not mention Miss Grand (and seems a bit thin on the independent sources needed to establish notability). Maproom (talk) 07:41, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Process of adding parameters to infobox


I would like to add parameters to an infobox, specifically I want to add philosophies familiar with: to an infobox about dostoevsky. Would the only way to do this be creating my own infobox and gaining popularity?

The article on Fyodor Dostoevsky uses Template:Infobox writer. It will be difficult to get a parameter "philosophies familiar with" added to that template. I guess you could create a new template with a name like "Infobox philosophical writer"; is that what you're looking for? Maproom (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Need help with references to Wikipedia entry USS Sterlet (SS-392)

I inserted new information and attributed the information to the correct reference source. I believe I used source editing. The reference should come first on the reference list, as in [1]. However, in the published list the number appears as [7] and the reference is listed [7] and last of 7 rather than [1] and first of 7. I am not sure how to correct this. Can you help me? Thank you.Folkrelic (talk) 06:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC) folkrelic

USS Sterlet (SS-392) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
@Folkrelic: This is normal; no change is needed. For example, look at the Apollo 15 article, today's "featured article" - there, footnote numbers 1 to 18 are in the infobox at the top right, and the first footnote in the main text is number 19. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
(more) There's another explanation in the Teahouse archives. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
@Folkrelic: for info: per WP:MOSSHIP, ship names are always in italics, wherever they occur in a article. Mjroots (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Link usage

Sir, I use wikipedia from many years and to be true its a profitable site for me. We can acquire each and every knowledge but past few days I mistakenly did something for which I cannot access to other words little information on the same page. Let me say clearly what problem I am facing, Actually before when we just move our pointer to a word then a mini information about the word we used to get but mistakenly I did something that it won't show any more.

I want to know the procedure to unlock that once again as it was much more profitable to know about many different topics related to a single one. Raj Aditya 25 (talk) 07:57, 30 July 2021 (UTC) Aditya

@Raj Aditya 25: Click "Edit preview settings" at the bottom right. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Kenneth William Bates

Hello, I am the Personal Assistant of Mr. Bates and he wishes to rectify some errors in the wikipedia pages about himself. I am unable to do do this. If I provide the facts to be replaced please could someone edit for me ? thank you  Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Hello. After first making the required paid editing declaration and reviewing conflict of interest, you are welcome to make a formal edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed, preferably sourced to independent reliable sources if possible. I'd suggest creating an account to do these things, but you are not required to. 331dot (talk) 08:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)


Hello, @User:ItsSkV08 continuously undoing edits in Salem Spartans Support staff section - Content Social media : Dhanesh , Reason given is promoting myself , even it is not myself , as many of times reported the user , You can check here for authenticity , you have to take any action to preventing from vandalism. Dhaneesh 🙃 Ram15:08, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Ram Dhaneesh, I appreciate that the content you are adding is supported by that link, but we wouldn't normally list all information from a company/team website on our article - we just summarise the important points. Having the head coach there makes sense, especially since we have an article about them, but listing people like their social media manager is excessive. I've removed that, and fixed up a bunch of other stuff while I was there. Girth Summit (blether) 11:59, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Offensive content

If an IP editor inserts 674 bytes of (offensive) text with an edit summary of "fixed typo", diff shouldn't this alert one of the anti-vandal bots or patrollers? I've removed it. It was a one-off edit from this IP so probably no point in blocking them, but I can't help thinking that text shouldn't have stuck around for so long.--Shantavira|feed me 12:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, this is indeed disturbing. I've seen it before, but it's quite rare. All I can think is that that page happens not to have many watchers, and none of them happened to see it (bad luck). It averages 5 views a day, which is low but... let's see, about 150 views since the vandalism. Many of those viewers probably saw the vandalism, but I guess they didn't know how to fix it or even know they can, or didn't care. that's more common, but still, more bad luck. No organization is perfect. If this starts to happen more often, that'd be a canary in the coal mine. Herostratus (talk) 12:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Sometimes, among the 53,914,093 pages we have at Wikipedia, some bit of vandalism goes unnoticed. It is unfortunate, but it is not a sign of impending doom for Wikipedia. We do only have 121,257 active users, and while that may seem like a lot, we don't always catch everything. The important thing is not to lament the fact that we are not 100% perfect as an organization, but instead to just be committed to doing the best one can, as an individual, to be useful where we can. --Jayron32 12:48, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
I think they are more suggesting that there be a filter to flag up things with a large change when the edit summary is "typo" or similar. However, Jayron is right - vandalism is sadly a daily occurrence on wikipedia. Sometimes they get caught immediately, sometimes not. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:56, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
This is the kind of thing that Stiki used to be good at finding - stuff slips through the net, but it used a couple of logs to show you questionable diffs from the last few weeks and months. I miss it. Girth Summit (blether) 14:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
For info, I've done a REVDEL on that edit under RD3 - purely disruptive material. IP has been warned. Mjroots (talk) 14:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

2021 in albums

Can you fix the colspan row i made please (talk) 14:50, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

I have corrected~ ItsSkV08 (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

The draft was rejected

Hi there, I'm very confused about a draft I was working on Draft:Sagami Rubber Industries. When I asked for help on how should I resubmit it there is no button so an editor said, The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. I was not the author of this draft so is that mean I can't recreate a new draft with new content about the same subject. Looking forward, thanks RASSIOPEIA (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, RASSIOPEIA. As you say, the draft was rejected (after being declined four times) by -Zai-. I see that you have added some sources: it would be best to discuss this with -Zai-, and see if you can persuade them that the subject is notable and the article recoverable. (I have pinged them, so they should see this answer). --ColinFine (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
No, I failed to ping -Zai-. Doing it now. --ColinFine (talk) 19:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

How to cite Biography Age & Birth Place

I want to publish article on research scholar. His Birth and Birth place is on LinkedIn profile  Preceding unsigned comment added by Ombhurbhuwa (talkcontribs) 18:50, July 30, 2021 (UTC)

@Ombhurbhuwa: Greetings, and welcome. With regard to the particular question, LinkedIn is not generally considered to be a reliable source for Wikipedia articles, because the content therein is user-generated and is not independently verifiable. But really, if you wish to create a new article, there are bigger questions to be asked, as creating an article from scratch is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia, especially for a brand-new editor. Please see WP:YFA for general guidance on article creation. The biggest question is whether the subject is notable enough (as Wikipedia defines it) to qualify for an article here. Is the research scholar the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the topic? Please refer to the general notability guidelines, the guidelines on academic figures, and most importantly the policies covering biographies of living persons. If you can find three good reliable independent sources specifically about the subject (not passing mentions, not press releases, not generated by the subject themselves) which help meet these guidelines, then feel free to create a draft and submit it via the Articles for Creation process where experienced editors can review the article and determine whether it is suitable for the encyclopedia. If good sources do not exist, then there is literally nothing upon which a proper encyclopedia can be based.
Feel free to ask further questions. Thanks, and happy editing! --Finngall talk 20:13, 30 July 2021 (UTC)