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Wikipedia talk:Deceased Wikipedians

Wikipedia talk:Deceased Wikipedians

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Why NOTOC?

Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Tab header specifies __NOTOC__. As a result, there is no table of contents on each year's list of individuals. I think it would be useful to have that TOC to help navigate the page or see at a glance who's there (if I'm trying to find someone but don't know the year). It seems like it has always been set up this way. Any objection to changing it? Pinging User:Titodutta who set that token. DMacks (talk) 06:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

@DMacks Hello, please feel free to make necessary change(s). No objection at all. Sincerely, —Titodutta (talk) 06:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
Enabled, and it seems to work both on the main page (TOC lists years) and each year's page (TOC lists individuals' names). DMacks (talk) 07:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
DMacks, Titodutta: The addition of the TOC really messed up the page's overall formatting by adding a TOC at the top, not only to the individual years. Since we already have a year header that allowed people to quickly get to the year they wanted, the TOC means we're listing the years twice at the top of the page. I understand that it'd be nice to have a TOC on each individual year, but we have to find a way to do that without messing other things up. I'm going to undo this change until we get consensus from people here that they want it.--SouthernNights (talk) 15:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Sounds like this might be skin- or browser-specific. No objection to undoing pending improving the portability. DMacks (talk) 17:17, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Absolutely no objection. Go for it. As I said, I liked the idea but the results I saw on the main page were my concern. SouthernNights (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
@SouthernNights: did the change only mess up the main page, or also each year's page? DMacks (talk) 17:45, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, just the main page. Each year's page looked fine. SouthernNights (talk) 17:52, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Surely, Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Tab header can be coded that it emits __NOTOC__ only if it's invoked on Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
That's a lot of double-negativing. I put the NOTOC on the main page itself, since that's the specific one we seem not to want it. And I removed it from the header-template that's transcluded on both the main page and the year pages. That means the TOC now also appears on the Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines, Wikipedia talk:Deceased Wikipedians, and Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Members pages as well, which I think(?) is an advantage. DMacks (talk) 04:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Problem with user page for Frostly

Frostly is still active but the user page (ditto talk page) seems to indicate deceased. I believe it is a mistake resulting from the last edit, i.e. the template beginning with DISPLAYTITLE. I would appreciate assistance.--Ipigott (talk) 11:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

What makes you think that the user is being treated as deceased? The userpage has a message that means "In memory of User:Vami IV". It has not been tagged as {{Deceased Wikipedian}} or anything like that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Goertz

On :de we became aware only today, that User:Goertz has died already in 2011. For his disclosed data see his entry in de:Wikipedia:Gedenkseite_für_verstorbene_Wikipedianer#2011. Eventually an admin here could block his :en-userpage etc. --Túrelio (talk) 17:28, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for letting us know, @Túrelio.
Vermont, I don't see a request for the Stewards to glock the account yet. Do you think Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines should link to m:Steward requests/Global? WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:45, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
I've made the lock. I don't think there's a need to explicitly point people to SRG. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 18:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
@Vermont and WhatamIdoing: This user was somewhat active on enwiki back in 2007. Should we add them to the 2011 obituaries? QuicoleJR (talk) 15:04, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
I wouldn't recommend it. We add {{Deceased Wikipedian}} for nearly every identified death, but for this page, we usually include only people whom we remember as being "part of the community". During the six months he edited here, he edited 23 articles and made about five short comments on talk pages. These were mostly helpful contributions, but he does not seem to have made any wiki-friends, joined any groups, collaborated on any programs, or otherwise became "part of the community".
Perhaps a reasonable rule of thumb would be: We should add people whom at least one editor remembers and would like to have memorialized (and probably that editor should be the one to propose or start the entry). WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi protection?

Noticing the recent tasteless vandalism, I'm wondering if this is the sort of page that should be indefinitely semi-protected. Jclemens (talk) 20:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Yuri Lushchai

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuri Lushchai. The Wikipedia page Yuri Lushchai is likely to be deleted. Is there a way this recently deceased Wikipedian can be added to this English language deaths? He was one of us. Please don't let his death go unmentioned. Thanks. — Maile (talk) 20:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

What was his user account name? Jay 💬 05:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Юрий Владимирович Л. (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Ymblanter (talk) 07:09, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedian yes, but it was 7 minor edits over 8 years. Jay 💬 07:50, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
His main activity was in the Russian Wikipedia. Ymblanter (talk) 08:46, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Special:CentralAuth/Юрий Владимирович Л. says 85K edits at ruwiki. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Also a former arb there. Ymblanter (talk) 20:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Suitable only for the ru Wikipedia, and the entry exists - ru:Википедия:Умершие участники#2024. Jay 💬 04:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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