Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cetaceans

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cetaceans

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cetaceans


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Killer Whale - featured article review

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Merge Whale and Cetacea?

I was going to make the official proposal myself, but it seems like the sort of thing that would be more skillfully discussed and handled by Team Cetacea (of which I am a fan but not a member). Krychek (talk) 20:00, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Disagree: Since the term "whale", by usage, applies only to part of the order Cetacea, and has distinct biological differences from dolphins & porpoises, especially in the case of baleen whales, I recommend that they not be merged. AshLin (talk) 13:32, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't think that partial usage is so cut-and-dried or universal to justify the current state of affairs. I'd like them both to be merged to Whale (Cetacea should be a redirect, I think.) ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 17:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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Whale poo

Whale feces is up. Any chance of an image of whale poo? AshLin (talk) 14:20, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Fools rush in...

... where angels fear to tread? I've begun work on Cetacean anatomy. I intend to try my best to bring in a much needed resource for our project. The whale & dolphin anatomies sections are clearly inadequate. I'm modelling the draft on fish anatomy. My draft is here. Since I'm a Wikitroll, please don't expect quick results but I hoe to get there eventually. I've done something similar in the past so hope to succeed here also. AshLin (talk) 13:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Marine Mammal WikiSprint - editathon

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Taxonomy template for auto taxobox - Order Cetartiodactlya

Hi,

I am trying to correct the taxonomy template for cetaceans. Template:Taxonomy/Cetacea/Mammalia. The Order for all cetaceans should be Cetartiodactyla Not Cetacea (which should be unranked based on current understanding); and Odontoceti and Mysticeti, which were previously suborder should be unranked. The old system should always be visible as unranked, since this is a major change in taxonomy compared to current public knowledge. I have managed to make Cetacea and the two suborders unranked in the template, but it will not allow me to make an new entry for the Order which should be Cetartiodactyla. Does anyone here have experience with the Template:Taxonomy/Cetacea/Mammalia system and who understands the classification changes I am proposing below. THANKS ShaneGero (talk) 12:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Based on molecular and morphological research, the cetaceans genetically and morphologically fall firmly within the Artiodactyla (even-toed ungulates).[1][2] The term Cetartiodactyla reflects the idea that whales evolved within the ungulates. The term was coined by merging the name for the two orders, Cetacea and Artiodactyla, into a single word. Under this definition, the closest living land relative of the whales and dolphins is thought to be the hippopotamuses. Use of Order Cetartiodactyla, instead of Cetacea with Suborders Odontoceti and Mysticeti, is favored by most evolutionary mammalogists working with molecular data[3][4][5][6] and is supported the IUCN Cetacean Specialist Group[7] and by Taxonomy Committee[8] of the Society for Marine Mammalogy, the largest international association of marine mammal scientists in the world.

References

  1. Geisler, Jonathan H.; Uden, Mark D. (2005). "Phylogenetic Relationships of Extinct Cetartiodactyls: Results of Simultaneous Analyses of Molecular, Morphological, and Stratigraphic Data". Journal of Mammalian Evolution. 12 (1–2): 145–160. doi:10.1007/s10914-005-4963-8. S2CID 34683201.
  2. Graur, D.; Higgins, G. (1994). "Molecular evidence for the inclusion of cetaceans within the order Artiodactyla" (PDF). Molecular Biology and Evolution. 11 (3): 357–364. doi:10.1093/oxfordjournals.molbev.a040118. PMID 8015431.
  3. Price, SA.; Bininda-Emonds, OR.; Gittleman, JL. (2005). "A complete phylogeny of the whales, dolphins and even-toed hoofed mammals – Cetartiodactyla". Biol Rev Camb Philos Soc. 80 (3): 445–473. doi:10.1017/s1464793105006743. PMID 16094808. S2CID 45056197.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mammals#Cetacean_Taxonomy_Template_for_auto_taxobox instead of here. Thanks! ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 18:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Whale - FA candidate

I have nominated the Whale article for FA candidate. Please join the discussion on whether or not this article meets FA criteria at this link. Dunkleosteus77 (push to talk) 02:19, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

River dolphin - GAN

Hello, I've nominated River dolphin for GAN. Please start the review at this link. Many thanks. Dunkleosteus77 (push to talk) 21:27, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

FLRC

I have nominated List of cetaceans for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. sst✈discuss 18:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Porpoise – GAN

I've nominated Porpoise for GA-review. Please start the review at this link. Many thanks Dunkleosteus77 (push to talk) 20:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Baleen whale rewrite

I'm putting together an extensive rewrite for the Baleen whale article in my sandbox. Below is what I have so far, feel free to make whatever changes you feel necessary. Thanks   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:11, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

It's been up for a week, so I'll go ahead and add it.   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  04:07, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
More information Extended content, Scientific classification ...

Baleen whale – GAN

I've nominated Baleen whale for GA-review. Please start the review at this link. Many thanks   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

GAR

Bottlenose dolphin, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 03:34, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Pygmy killer whale

I revised the Pygmy killer whale and was hoping to upgrade its class from "start" to at least "C". Could the article be reassessed and have its class upgraded?

--LiaElf76 (talk) 21:45, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Taxoboxes for even-toed ungulates and whales

Feel free to participate in a discussion I started at Talk:Even-toed ungulate#Taxoboxes for even-toed ungulates and whales. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 17:46, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Assessment query

Hi guys, I assessed the 2 listed unassessed articles that were listed as needed doing yesterday, but as yet the article box on the project home page hasn't updated to show this. Can someone check if I've inserted the code correctly on the article's talk pages as it's the first article assessment I've done? The articles in question are mud ring feeding and Dolfinarium Harderwijk. Cheers guys. douts (talk) 17:49, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 10:29, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Keep the scraps

Sei-lwhales talk section has a lot of crossed over text. Have an historical edit section to keep such.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.75.121.81 (talk) 19:52, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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Interesting scope of article

I came across Whales in Ghanaian waters and am wondering if such formulations exist elsewhere: "Birds of X islands" or "Fish of Y lake". Or whether it is worth creating "Whales (or cetaceans) of Z waters". Carbon Caryatid (talk) 21:28, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

it looks like that article was specifically created because of some stranding event   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  22:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
We have some "Fauna of place X" and "Mammals of place X" articles, e.g. Fauna of Australia. And we have Category:Lists of mammals by location. For waters rich in cetacean life it would be appropriate to have an article about the cetaceans in the area. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 18:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
most whales are in every ocean, any particular body of water you suggest?   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  18:37, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Cryptid Whale

There's currently discussion at Talk:Cryptid whale likely of interest to readers here. :bloodofox: (talk) 21:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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Request for comment on recommending usage of automatic taxoboxes

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WikiProject Cetaceans is currently using automatic taxoboxes in 98.6% of project tagged articles that have any form of taxobox. Plantdrew (talk) 01:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Two for one for Bryde's whale and Minke whale?

There are only two articles in WikiProject Cetaceans that use manual {{taxobox}}es: Bryde's whale and Minke whale. Both are cramming two species into taxoboxes meant for one taxon each. Are both/either of these whales species complexes, or some other infrageneric clades? If so, the manual {{Taxobox}}es should be upgraded to {{Automatic taxobox}}es. If they are only evolutionary grades, then an automated {{paraphyletic group}} box should be used. I think either change could be applied without rocking the boat on the rest of the article.

I have raised this on Talk:Bryde's whale#Is it a grade or a clade? and Talk:Minke whale#Are Minke whale even a taxon or an informal grouping?, but thought I should ping here to loop in more folks. I posted separately also in case the answers are different for each article. --Nessie (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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FLRC

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Artiodactyla vs Cetartiodactyla

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The Cetacean Barnstar


Introducing Template:The Cetacean Barnstar Jerm (talk) 23:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Question

If one would like it one could look at a question I've posted on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science. Thank You anyway. Эйхер (talk) 14:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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FAR for Fin whale

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User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mesonychid#Requested move 11 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 18:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Activity check

Just checking in to see if anyone else here is still active? I've been working on extinct cetacean articles, but it seems like the project page and other areas here can do with some proper maintenance. Please drop a reply if you're still active? Thanks! The Morrison Man (talk) 15:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)


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